Is hitting an effective training/behavior mod tool?

tofu pup said:
Thank you, Jeff.

I'm going to put on my moderator hat and remind everyone that we are here to provide a supportive and educational community for all Sheltie owners.

When people know better, they do better. Please keep replies constructive.
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This kind of moderation is exactly why I find myself visiting this forum less and less. It is a dumb question and and deserving of a shocked response.
 
Phebe*DD said:
This kind of moderation is exactly why I find myself visiting this forum less and less. It is a dumb question and and deserving of a shocked response.
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I don't understand why a mod asking the group to remain constructive is an issue. This forum has a history of getting riled up about things we feel strongly about, understandably. The mod is just trying to remind us to behave before things get out of hand. There are truly naive people out there who don't understand that nowadays we just don't hit our dogs. Why not educate instead of lash out?
 
OK folks, let's stay on topic.

If you have questions or issues with the quality of moderation, please bring them up with Kelly.
 
Jess041 said:
I don't understand why a mod asking the group to remain constructive is an issue. This forum has a history of getting riled up about things we feel strongly about, understandably. The mod is just trying to remind us to behave before things get out of hand. There are truly naive people out there who don't understand that nowadays we just don't hit our dogs. Why not educate instead of lash out?
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Let me be more specific. The selective nature of the moderation is the problem. Sharon receives a hand slap for expressing shock over shocking behavior, but some one else equates hitting a dog with vulgar references to bodily functions and nothing is said. Hmmmmnnmm
 
Phebe*DD said:
Let me be more specific. The selective nature of the moderation is the problem. Sharon receives a hand slap for expressing shock over shocking behavior, but some one else equates hitting a dog with vulgar references to bodily functions and nothing is said. Hmmmmnnmm
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The mods follow the rules that are clearly posted on the blue bar above.

The question did not violate any of the forums rules and the other posters were being constructive.

Sharon's response was not constructive in any way.

4. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable; trolling, personal attacks, trying to convert non-believers, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature (i.e., PMs) or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

I hope that clears up the "hmmmm"

Now...if you do not have anything constructive to help this member who is asking for help, then please refrain from commenting. We are hear to help, not to give sniping comments.

Back on track!
 
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In defense

This might get deleted, as it is off the topic. I did answer the original question earlier. If you look at the OP's profile and some of her previous questions, she seems quite young and naive (no offense intended - we all were at one time). I get the sense she is asking an honest question, no matter how shocking it is to those of us who have had dogs before and who have educated ourselves about dog ownership, training, and behaviors.

I, for one, am glad she felt free to come here and ask the question instead of simply following her friend's advice and hitting her Sheltie. Tofu, please, please, please continue to ask questions -- you are NOT an idiot for doing so. There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being uneducated. You may be uneducated, but asking questions here is a valid way to change that.

I would again encourage you to find a beginner's training class for you and your pup. It is clear to me that you want to do what's right, but you aren't sure what that is. A good class that stresses positive reinforcement will help you figure that out.
 
mimiretz said:
This might get deleted, as it is off the topic. I did answer the original question earlier. If you look at the OP's profile and some of her previous questions, she seems quite young and naive (no offense intended - we all were at one time). I get the sense she is asking an honest question, no matter how shocking it is to those of us who have had dogs before and who have educated ourselves about dog ownership, training, and behaviors.

I, for one, am glad she felt free to come here and ask the question instead of simply following her friend's advice and hitting her Sheltie. Tofu, please, please, please continue to ask questions -- you are NOT an idiot for doing so. There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being uneducated. You may be uneducated, but asking questions here is a valid way to change that.

I would again encourage you to find a beginner's training class for you and your pup. It is clear to me that you want to do what's right, but you aren't sure what that is. A good class that stresses positive reinforcement will help you figure that out.
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Thanks for your post. That is exactly what the forum is here to do.

One correction to the above post, Tofu, is one of our dedicated Moderators, NOT the original poster (OP) who asked the question.

Calling a Moderator (or any member for that matter) names will never be tolerated on this forum.

Carry on....:pop
 
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mimiretz said:
This might get deleted, as it is off the topic. I did answer the original question earlier. If you look at the OP's profile and some of her previous questions, she seems quite young and naive (no offense intended - we all were at one time). I get the sense she is asking an honest question, no matter how shocking it is to those of us who have had dogs before and who have educated ourselves about dog ownership, training, and behaviors.

I, for one, am glad she felt free to come here and ask the question instead of simply following her friend's advice and hitting her Sheltie. Tofu, please, please, please continue to ask questions -- you are NOT an idiot for doing so. There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being uneducated. You may be uneducated, but asking questions here is a valid way to change that.

I would again encourage you to find a beginner's training class for you and your pup. It is clear to me that you want to do what's right, but you aren't sure what that is. A good class that stresses positive reinforcement will help you figure that out.
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+1 and thank you. To the OP, we want to help you be the best Sheltie owner you can be. Asking questions and trying to learn more is the best (the only!) place to start.
 
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