Luka is impossible.

You've already received great advice about super recalls, yummy treats and the long line, so I won't repeat that. Just know that you're not alone. Phebe is 15 months and we have good days and bad days. More good than bad, but still she likes to test me. :wink2:
 
I have been reading Control Unleashed by Leslie McDevitt and am very interested with some ideas there, one of them- it should not matter to the dog if he is on leash or now... teaching go away command together with come makes a great sense to me, def am working on it...
Che recall is not great yet, but much improved after workshop we took on rock solid recall.
 
Luke is not impossible, LOL, he is a baby!!!

Clantyrsheltie has great advice.

If you are looking for formal training, maybe try something fun, that will encourage Luke to want to be next to you. Agility is great fun for both the dog and the owner. Most Agility training centers offer a basic obedience course for younger dogs, which teaches them in a fun way to follow you.

Be patient and consistent.....he is only a baby :winkgrin:
 
lukabear said:
Have you had other collies before? I'm thinking of getting a rough collie in a few years. I can't decide between an big bi-blue sheltie and a collie. Luka is a pretty big sheltie, and I think I'd want something as large as he is.
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She is my one and only. The temperament differences are pretty pronounced. I call her "Champion Katie On The Couch" because that is what she is. She likes the other dogs, but couldn't care less about me. She is currently at a friends house while she is cooking babies (due this weekend) and when I went to visit her this past weekend it was like "oh, hi! look I have a chewy" and she never looked at me again. She is the ONLY dog I have ever NQ'd with in Rally Novice. Walk, walk, sit, stay, oh! shiny thing! walk, oh! shiny thing! tight leash the whole time. My landlord has managed to put one RN leg on her, her patience is longer than mine. She went through a basic obedience class and a couple basic agility classes, but not much more.

She's more a cat, really.
 
Lovely said:
Pierre had this problem before we got him through his series of classes. Heck, we even took a specific Recall class! Sometimes he doesn't do the recall in home if my voice isn't interesting enough (easy fix), but I know he will never be allowed off lead outside unless in a fenced in area. The most important thing we got from the class was the emergency recall. My word is to scream "NOW!" like bloody murder, but you know what - it has ALWAYS worked. That's how you train it. You never call it for going outside, doing anything un-fun. And the reward is amazing. Only a week after the class ended, Pierre somehow slipped outside and started his mad freedom dash. I screeched "NOW!" and not only did he stop, but he came back to me! Also, that was the last time he has even tried to wiggle his way outdoors. Sometimes, the money is worth the result.
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The "NOW" totally works for Pebbles too! Her recall isn't the best, but we have just started training (I think she had some training before we adopted her). I am hoping she will listen to just "Come" eventually, because in general, she really wants to please us.
 
Now that I'm walking the dogs off leash in the "back 40" of my new house, I'm concerned about recall as well.

I've never really had the opportunity to put it to the test. So far, everytime I've gone walking with them, we've not met anything more interesting than me, so when I recall them, they come back just fine.

I like the "emergency" command "NOW" and will give some thought as to how to instill it in them. Great advice
 
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