Massive Sheltie Pants!

This is a funny thread!! I thought Sandstorms butt was big!!


I thought Sandstorms butt was big, but listening to all of you I just don't know now!!:eek2:
Sandstorms breeder told us that she feeds her dogs nutro-natural because it keeps the coat silky instead of coarse. We are feeding nutro-natural puppy lamb and rice, and Sandstorms coat is very silky. Our Shepherds coat was coarse, we also fed her Iams. The breeder said if we did that the sheltie coat would become coarser- due to the protein. Does the silkier coat help ease the brushing do you all think?
Karen
 
Karen

I don't think there is a co-relation.

Bacca has virtually no undercoat, but his coat is definitely coarser than Indy's. Indy has TONS of undercoat, but his top coat is very soft.

Bacca requires little brushing....Indy could be brushed every day and it still would not be enough.

Diet, of course, plays a huge role in the condition of the skin and therefore, the fur overall. They are both on the same diet, so genetics kick in at some point.

Neither of my boys has ever "blown" their coat in the way that some people describe. I waiting for it!
 
KarenCurtis said:

I thought Sandstorms butt was big, but listening to all of you I just don't know now!!:eek2:
Sandstorms breeder told us that she feeds her dogs nutro-natural because it keeps the coat silky instead of coarse. We are feeding nutro-natural puppy lamb and rice, and Sandstorms coat is very silky. Our Shepherds coat was coarse, we also fed her Iams. The breeder said if we did that the sheltie coat would become coarser- due to the protein. Does the silkier coat help ease the brushing do you all think?
Karen
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Not to argue with your breeder, but a silky coat is an incorrect coat for a sheltie. :smile2: From experience, that that type of coat is harder to maintain(ie needs more brushing) and mats more easily. It also collects burrs and debris more easily. Blues also tend to have softer coats. Nutro natural and Iams had about the same protein content so while diet can play a role in coat texture, a bigger factor is genetics and coat conditioning.

From the sheltie standard
Coat
The coat should be double, the outer coat consisting of long, straight, harsh hair; the undercoat short, furry, and so dense as to give the entire coat its "standoff" quality. The hair on face, tips of ears and feet should be smooth. Mane and frill should be abundant, and particularly impressive in males. The forelegs well feathered, the hind legs heavily so, but smooth below the hock joint. Hair on tail profuse. Note: Excess-hair on ears, feet, and on hocks may be trimmed for the show ring. Faults-- Coat short or flat, in whole or in part; wavy, curly, soft or silky. Lack of undercoat. Smooth-coated specimens.
Justice has the best coat texture. He is hard to get wet, never mats and dirt and debris seems to just fall off him. Ember has a soft, silky coat and everything sticks to her and she needs 3x the brushing that Justice does to maintain the same look.
 
I have to agree with the soft coat!! Abbys is very soft and silky..plus its long and she has alot of undercoat...I have to check her for sticks and leaves every time she comes in from playing outside...she mats up easily and takes twice as long to groom as Clancy and shes half his size!! LOL

Clancy prolly has the correct kind of fur..he's alot easier to keep!! BUtt...his butt gets the big hairy!! LOL

They eat the same food...so me thinks its more genetics...they are from different breeders...

Julie
 
Justicemom said:
Not to argue with your breeder, but a silky coat is an incorrect coat for a sheltie. :smile2: From experience, that that type of coat is harder to maintain(ie needs more brushing) and mats more easily. It also collects burrs and debris more easily. Blues also tend to have softer coats. Nutro natural and Iams had about the same protein content so while diet can play a role in coat texture, a bigger factor is genetics and coat conditioning.

From the sheltie standard
Coat
The coat should be double, the outer coat consisting of long, straight, harsh hair; the undercoat short, furry, and so dense as to give the entire coat its "standoff" quality. The hair on face, tips of ears and feet should be smooth. Mane and frill should be abundant, and particularly impressive in males. The forelegs well feathered, the hind legs heavily so, but smooth below the hock joint. Hair on tail profuse. Note: Excess-hair on ears, feet, and on hocks may be trimmed for the show ring. Faults-- Coat short or flat, in whole or in part; wavy, curly, soft or silky. Lack of undercoat. Smooth-coated specimens.
Justice has the best coat texture. He is hard to get wet, never mats and dirt and debris seems to just fall off him. Ember has a soft, silky coat and everything sticks to her and she needs 3x the brushing that Justice does to maintain the same look.
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Are you going to try the Show Dog Vibrant Pets formula on Justice? I would be curious to see if his coat texture changes after introducing this suppliment. I started Chloe on it in November....based on everyone's rave reviews. I am not sure if I am totally satisfied, because I have seen a change in her coat going from a typical "sheltie" coat, to a softer, silkier coat. I would love to see if this is just Chloe maturing, or due to the addition of the Vibrant Pets.
 
danisgoat said:
Are you going to try the Show Dog Vibrant Pets formula on Justice? I would be curious to see if his coat texture changes after introducing this suppliment. I started Chloe on it in November....based on everyone's rave reviews. I am not sure if I am totally satisfied, because I have seen a change in her coat going from a typical "sheltie" coat, to a softer, silkier coat. I would love to see if this is just Chloe maturing, or due to the addition of the Vibrant Pets.
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I started them on the canine athlete. I'll have to watch the coat and let you know. Ember's coat did seem to get more soft as she aged and got undercoat. Diva is still too young to tell. It seems to be getting more harsh. She certainly does not have Justice's texture as of yet.
 
Justicemom said:
Not to argue with your breeder, but a silky coat is an incorrect coat for a sheltie. :smile2: From experience, that that type of coat is harder to maintain(ie needs more brushing) and mats more easily. It also collects burrs and debris more easily. Blues also tend to have softer coats. Nutro natural and Iams had about the same protein content so while diet can play a role in coat texture, a bigger factor is genetics and coat conditioning.

From the sheltie standard
Coat
The coat should be double, the outer coat consisting of long, straight, harsh hair; the undercoat short, furry, and so dense as to give the entire coat its "standoff" quality. The hair on face, tips of ears and feet should be smooth. Mane and frill should be abundant, and particularly impressive in males. The forelegs well feathered, the hind legs heavily so, but smooth below the hock joint. Hair on tail profuse. Note: Excess-hair on ears, feet, and on hocks may be trimmed for the show ring. Faults-- Coat short or flat, in whole or in part; wavy, curly, soft or silky. Lack of undercoat. Smooth-coated specimens.
Justice has the best coat texture. He is hard to get wet, never mats and dirt and debris seems to just fall off him. Ember has a soft, silky coat and everything sticks to her and she needs 3x the brushing that Justice does to maintain the same look.
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Hi- Sandstorms breeder also breeds many show-dogs who have the same coat texture as Sandstorms- Sandstorm is not show quality, mainly due to his size. Most of his siblings will be shown- he is one of five. He was the only pup left, I did not pick out of a litter-however, I got him when he was 5 months old, so he was the breeders favorite- I didn't care if he was a show dog or not. I think he is the biggest dog she has ever bred.
Karen:smile2:
 
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