Miko's Health (updates and more)

New Question (sort of)

Hopefully people will see this. I didn't want to start another new thread on a topic I've somewhat covered.

Miko is still peeing in the house. If I'm awake and he's walking around, I will take him out. I don't care if it's been 15 mins, out he goes. And that seems to work, for the most part.

The new issue is...I can take him out at 2am, but then by 6am, he's peeing in the house. He can hold it for more than 4 hours. I'm wondering if he's just up and about more in the middle of the night, than say, during the day (cuz there are times I can't get home and he holds it for 10 hours - and yes, he'll run - for a senior dog - to the grass). Heck, I can take him out at 4am and he's peeing in the house by 6:30-7am. Ugh.

I put pads down, he doesn't use them. I've even left used ones down so he gets it. Nada. Mind you, he was originally pad trained, not house broken. sigh. I tired putting him in a large area in an x-pen, he made so much noise I couldn't sleep. He was up and scratching, making circles constantly. I gave up and let him out it was so obnoxious.

Two days ago, I used my agility pen and gave him a smaller area, to see if he wouldn't fret so much. Nope. He peed/pooped in there out of stress. And of course, he walked all over everything. Thankfully the poop was firm that it didn't get all over him. So, too small stresses him out. Too big and he walks around constantly.

I am at my wits end. I can't get more than a few hours of sleep at a time. At least with puppies you know there'll eventually be an end soon. With Miko, this could go on for years. Who knows.

My kitchen area is about 4x9. Do you think I should gate him in there with a soft mat to lie on and a puppy pad to do his business on? See if that works? My only concern is that it's got vinyl laminate down. Meaning, it's hard and slippery. And with his hind legs not working so well......well, you know what I mean. I'm also afraid he'll stress poop/pee and not be happy in there either.

Thoughts? Ideas? Anything?

Thanks. I'm slowly going out of my mind from lack of continuous sleep.
 
Hopefully people will see this. I didn't want to start another new thread on a topic I've somewhat covered.

Miko is still peeing in the house. If I'm awake and he's walking around, I will take him out. I don't care if it's been 15 mins, out he goes. And that seems to work, for the most part.

The new issue is...I can take him out at 2am, but then by 6am, he's peeing in the house. He can hold it for more than 4 hours. I'm wondering if he's just up and about more in the middle of the night, than say, during the day (cuz there are times I can't get home and he holds it for 10 hours - and yes, he'll run - for a senior dog - to the grass). Heck, I can take him out at 4am and he's peeing in the house by 6:30-7am. Ugh.

I put pads down, he doesn't use them. I've even left used ones down so he gets it. Nada. Mind you, he was originally pad trained, not house broken. sigh. I tired putting him in a large area in an x-pen, he made so much noise I couldn't sleep. He was up and scratching, making circles constantly. I gave up and let him out it was so obnoxious.

Two days ago, I used my agility pen and gave him a smaller area, to see if he wouldn't fret so much. Nope. He peed/pooped in there out of stress. And of course, he walked all over everything. Thankfully the poop was firm that it didn't get all over him. So, too small stresses him out. Too big and he walks around constantly.

I am at my wits end. I can't get more than a few hours of sleep at a time. At least with puppies you know there'll eventually be an end soon. With Miko, this could go on for years. Who knows.

My kitchen area is about 4x9. Do you think I should gate him in there with a soft mat to lie on and a puppy pad to do his business on? See if that works? My only concern is that it's got vinyl laminate down. Meaning, it's hard and slippery. And with his hind legs not working so well......well, you know what I mean. I'm also afraid he'll stress poop/pee and not be happy in there either.

Thoughts? Ideas? Anything?

Thanks. I'm slowly going out of my mind from lack of continuous sleep.

I wish I had some suggestions for you. try the gate thing and see what happens. I was cleaning the floor every morning for a while there- always pee, sometimes poo.....
Callie didn't make much noise at night so at least I did get sleep.......
 
Would a belly band maybe help while you sleep or diapers for dogs?

The belly band prevents urinating and although it works, since Miko has kidney disease, that's not really good to prevent urination. The only reason I'm not going with diapers is because if you even put a collar on him, he won't ever get comfy. So I can't imagine how uncomfortable he'd be in a diaper. So, for now, it's my last resort.

Both good options, just not ones I'm willing to do.....just yet.
 
The belly band prevents urinating and although it works, since Miko has kidney disease, that's not really good to prevent urination. The only reason I'm not going with diapers is because if you even put a collar on him, he won't ever get comfy. So I can't imagine how uncomfortable he'd be in a diaper. So, for now, it's my last resort.

Both good options, just not ones I'm willing to do.....just yet.

I only used the diaper when Callie was in the car- she couldn't always hold it and we couldn't always pull over when she asked to go....
she did not like them but she did tolerate wearing them and it meant that I didn't have to clean the car, seat, floor, other shelties, etc.......
 
I wish I had some suggestions for you. try the gate thing and see what happens. I was cleaning the floor every morning for a while there- always pee, sometimes poo.....
Callie didn't make much noise at night so at least I did get sleep.......

Yeah. Unfortunately I have carpet and already know I won't be getting my deposit back (I live in an apt). That's the hard part. Dealing with the carpet.

I may try the gate thing. Sigh. I just don't know what to do so we both can relax and get some much needed rest w/o stress in the morning.
 
Maybe try the diaper-at least you will be able to sleep and not have to worry so much about him going everywhere, or maybe the kitchen thing will work. How about a thundershirt ? Seems to help calm-maybe he would be able to rest better. Just throwing things out there...you need to get some sleep !! :sleepy:
 
Maybe try the diaper-at least you will be able to sleep and not have to worry so much about him going everywhere, or maybe the kitchen thing will work. How about a thundershirt ? Seems to help calm-maybe he would be able to rest better. Just throwing things out there...you need to get some sleep !! :sleepy:

I didn't think about a thundershirt. Maybe his scratching, circling, etc could be helped by it. I have to ask my trainer friends who know more about the thundershirt than I would. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
When Louie had bladder cancer I used the belly bands with an additional feminine pad insert in it. It does NOT prevent them from peeing if they need too, Louie also needed to pee and not have it prevented. It allowed us to sleep and go to work without coming home to accidents. I certainly would try them, it was a lifesaver for us. Louie did not mind them at all, maybe it was a relief for him. We got ours from Dr Fosters and Smith and they are sort of form fitting, but either measure or purchase larger than you think, we had to add to Louies so it was big enough around.
 
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