Petsafe Ultrasonic Bark Control/training?

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What are the forum's thoughts on these products:


http://www.petsafe.net/intl/ca/products/bark-control/ultrasonic-and-sonic/ultrasonic-bark-control

http://www.petsafe.net/intl/ca/products/training-systems/ultrasonic/ultrasonic-remote-trainer

http://www.petsafe.net/intl/ca/prod...rasonic-and-sonic/deluxe-outdoor-bark-control

I had a customer come back to the store this week saying that the ultrasonic created a whole new dog for her. I'm actually skeptical about it. I should try it out on my idiot dog Indy. Nothing works for him....!:(
 
I actually purchased the third item, or perhaps an earlier model, when I lived in NY with my dad. Meggie and her bff Lucy were crazy barking in the yard. I put the little birdhouse looking thing out there and it did make them stop barking. It also made them stop wanting to go in the yard! It was like they were afraid to go out there. I had to take it back.
 
I would call those devices positive punishment.
Problem with punishment is
1. It does not provide information what do you want dog to do.
2. Dog can be doing multiple things at once, i.e. sniffing, barking, eyballing, touching etc so it takes some time for the dog to figure out what exactly this suppose to mean.
3. It is breach of trust between your dog and you.
4. It could backfire and create either more barking/ anxiety or shut down/ fear which would be real PITA to desensetize.
Shelties are barkers and are watchdogs- they suppose to warn you when stranger is coming etc. If you are not prepared to deal with barker get different breed.
There are usually reasons why sheltie barks excessively- lack of exercise, lack of attention, anxiety, poor training, poor breeding etc. Some reasons can be trained, some can be managed. If Sheltie bark is a bother- debarking is far kinder option IMHO.
 
My friend Jacqui got one of the bird house types because of her 3 Min Pins and the complaints from the neighbours. They have stopped nuisance barking and don't seem upset by it. Jacqui only activates it if the barking, usually started by the older female, starts up again. The guy across the street has a shepherd that barked continuously if they went out and he borrowed the device. Stopped the shepherd as well.
 
I'm really interested in MissSuzie's comment about it stopping the dogs from going outside all together. That would be a huge worry for me

One of the products, proports to have both positive and negative ultrasonic sounds. Any feedback on that?

Thanks again!
 
It didn't work for me. The first time I tried it, bailey got more aggressive at her barking triggers. She thought whatever she was barking at was setting it off, so she barked more and more aggressively.

Almost a year later, I tried it again and Bailey figured out how to bark without setting it off.

The problem with things like that, citronella collars and shock collars is the dog doesn't always associate it with their barking. Also it can really scare some dogs, so they'll be afraid to go outside or they can even associate it with something else.
 
MissSuzie said:
I actually purchased the third item, or perhaps an earlier model, when I lived in NY with my dad. Meggie and her bff Lucy were crazy barking in the yard. I put the little birdhouse looking thing out there and it did make them stop barking. It also made them stop wanting to go in the yard! It was like they were afraid to go out there. I had to take it back.
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Same thing happened here. 2 of my 4 refused to go out. I don't use it anymore.......
 
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