Puppy barking is getting out of hand!

Minniesmom15

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Hi guys. I will try to make this as short as possible. It's been an extremely tiring week and I can barely keep my eyes open, so I apologize if this is poorly written or not explanatory enough.

My puppy is now four months and three weeks old. He has been SO great. Well socialized, perfect in new situations, calm, quick learner, just graduated puppy class with flying colors, loves other dogs, etc etc etc. Well, I just started a new job at a horse training facility three weeks ago. It's full time, and my pup comes with me. It's kind of a sucky situation because I don't have much time to exercise him before work or during the day (hours are 7am-6or7pm, plus an hour commute each way) but I've invested in many kongs and other toys that are mentally stimulating, as well as treat balls and puzzles, etc. It's not ideal for a young puppy, but I don't want to put him in daycare, as I feel it's better for him to just get used to it now.. I intend for this to be a career, and he will be coming to work with me every day for as long as I'm there, as well as traveling to shows.

ANYWAY. The first few days went great, I tried keeping him in his expen in the barn aisle, tack room, and outside (in the shade) he was very quiet, except when the barn dogs would antagonize him, so I ended up moving his expen into the grain room, where the dogs rarely go. He was good in there except when we were preparing grain for the horses-he'd bark uncontrollably the entire (a solid 15-20 minutes!) time we moved/dumped grain bags, scooped feed into buckets, did supplements, moved the feed tubs, etc. I tried ignoring him, but it's been two weeks of this now, and it's only gotten worse. He now barks whenever I leave him in the expen (morning, after potty breaks, etc) whenever anyone is in the grain room, when anyone moves a wheelbarrow or broom past the grain room doors, basically anything and everything. He will be quiet if I give him cheese whiz or cream cheese, (or at least much quieter) until it's gone. I don't want to continue this because I feel it's a bandaid and also can't be healthy.
He has also (unsure if it's related) begun barking and lunging at the crate door when I put him in his crate in my bedroom. This is driving me nuts because he hasn't so much as whined in his crate since the first week we had him home at 8 weeks! He has always been a perfect angel in his crate in the car, other people's homes, bedroom, etc. so it's frustrating to say the least. I completely ignore him when he does this but :gaah

It's so stressful trying to adjust to this new job and handle all these new behaviors that he's had recently, and I really can't do much training at all while I'm working because it's a very busy job. Also because I'm so new, I don't want to cause my boss to tell me not to bring my dog to the barn because he is interfering with my work.

I so appreciate any and all suggestions.
 
Sounds like a lot of "new" for both of you, new job with all the new stuff to learn and a very long day for both of you. Totally new environment for your pup with a lot of spooky sounds and moving brooms and moving horses and strange people coming and going . He probably isn't able to settle down and is probably over stimulted but not getting enough exercise. And you are probably exhausted and don't have the patience to deal with all this right now and no wonder. Maybe a time to play fetch and take your pup for a walk during your lunch break, then put him in a quiet spot so he can nap undisturbed. The feed room sounds too busy for him so maybe look for a quieter spot. Maybe cover his crate. This is a 14 hour day for a young dog...pups need a lot of sleep. And how about you ? How many days are you working 12's ? Maybe 1 or 2 days of doggie daycare would give you both a break. :sleepy:
 
That's a lot of stimuli for a little herding dog puppy... they are usually more motion and sound sensitive than other dogs...
Don't keep doing same thing, I would definitely move the crate, he needs GOOD experiences in there, not practising bad ones, it will be SOOOO tough to untrain it
I definitely second the cover, and also try taking a few minutes off during breaks (hope u get some!) to mentally stimulate the pup, do some simple exercises around the place for short sequences but more frequently...
Good luck, sounds awfully stressful for you :(
 
I third the covering of the crate. Birch gets overstimulated at agility events -class and trials. I would cover it with a heavy blanket(mind you this was winter) and he was an angel. I tried the new light weight version(a sheet) yesterday and it still worked like a charm.
 
Sounds like a lot of "new" for both of you, new job with all the new stuff to learn and a very long day for both of you. Totally new environment for your pup with a lot of spooky sounds and moving brooms and moving horses and strange people coming and going . He probably isn't able to settle down and is probably over stimulted but not getting enough exercise. And you are probably exhausted and don't have the patience to deal with all this right now and no wonder. Maybe a time to play fetch and take your pup for a walk during your lunch break, then put him in a quiet spot so he can nap undisturbed. The feed room sounds too busy for him so maybe look for a quieter spot. Maybe cover his crate. This is a 14 hour day for a young dog...pups need a lot of sleep. And how about you ? How many days are you working 12's ? Maybe 1 or 2 days of doggie daycare would give you both a break. :sleepy:
It is such a long day for both of us, and I feel terribly that it's causing so much stress for him, I just don't know what to do! My break is often JUST long enough to eat my lunch and back to work. When I do have time, I take him out to run, train, walk around the farm.

Unfortunately, the grain room is probably the quietest room I can keep him in.. I can talk to my boss about moving him to their office or laundry room, but the office is kind of the wife's space, and I don't want him to start barking at her. The laundry room is a nice, cool, quiet room BUT it is messy as h*** and also my boss's family uses the washer/dryer for their own personal clothes, so I'd feel bad if he's barking at them when they're just trying to get their wash done! I can ask, though. It's a Monday-Saturday job, so yes, many LONG days!! I will look into the daycare, my breeder is also his vet and they have daycare, BUT I get to work at 7:15, and the vet's office (30 minutes away) isn't open until 7:30. UGH!! I am currently looking into dog daycare's closer to my work.

That's a lot of stimuli for a little herding dog puppy... they are usually more motion and sound sensitive than other dogs...
Don't keep doing same thing, I would definitely move the crate, he needs GOOD experiences in there, not practising bad ones, it will be SOOOO tough to untrain it
I definitely second the cover, and also try taking a few minutes off during breaks (hope u get some!) to mentally stimulate the pup, do some simple exercises around the place for short sequences but more frequently...
Good luck, sounds awfully stressful for you :(
He is in an expen, I have considered trying to cover it, I just worry it will get too hot if I keep the pen covered? And he would still be able to HEAR all the noises. I will see about moving him into the laundry room, if they would allow that it would help a lot I think. Otherwise, I was considering purchasing one of those big chainlink dog kennels, and keeping him outside in that all day? Would that be appropriate with toys, food puzzles, cooling bed, and plenty of water, or no? I hate the thought of that but maybe it would be less stressful for him.. Let me know your thoughts. I SO WISH I could take him out every couple hours just for a 10 minute walk or something, but that's out of the question :no: It is so stressful. I almost have begun considering leaving this job, but it's such an amazing opportunity, and once he's adjusted everything will be fine.. just so overwhelming trying to figure out how to GET him adjusted!

I third the covering of the crate. Birch gets overstimulated at agility events -class and trials. I would cover it with a heavy blanket(mind you this was winter) and he was an angel. I tried the new light weight version(a sheet) yesterday and it still worked like a charm.
I will try to find a sheet to bring with me tomorrow and try keeping him covered in the expen. I have a strong feeling he will still bark while we're graining, but maybe won't every time I leave him or if people sweep the aisle along the grain room.

Another thing: with all this going on, do you think I should even try bringing him to horse shows with me at this point? My breeder will take him for me while I'm gone at shows (I think it's about two a month through September, and then we have US Nationals in October. I'll be gone almost three weeks for that show, so I REALLY want him to be able to come with me to horse shows by then! I can't imagine leaving him that long.) I'm torn between A.thinking the younger he starts going to horse shows, the better he'll be, and B.thinking that it would be better for him to be older, maybe 6-8 months, before trying to take him to a show?

Thank you all so much. I don't have many friends at all who come CLOSE to caring for their dogs the way I do for my pup, so no one gets how upsetting the situation is for me. I just want him to feel comfortable at the barn.
 
Short response - sorry - about to leave for work:

Barrier frustration - I see it a lot in dogs at the humane society. He wants to be with you and other humans, but the ex-pen prevents him from doing that, so he becomes frustrated and barks. He's already extended this to his ex-pen, and if you aren't careful he'll extend those feelings of frustration to humans through classical conditioning.

I second the crate games and covering. Also, going into his ex pen to visit on a regular basis so he associates the ex pen with positive interactions.

He's not barking b/c he wants to be annoying - he's barking because he loves you and wants to be with you, and can't understand why he can't.
 
I was wondering if it would be possible at times to have him on a lead with you? A long lead attached to your waist so he couldn't wander off, but you would have your hands free? Then just pop him in the crate for quiet times when he needs to sleep.
 
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