Question about jrs confirmation

Lynne

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I have a question about junior showmanship. I bought my daughter her first sheltie, Jake, who she wants to show. He is pure bred but over 16" tall. Will this matter in the junior showmanship ring?
 
Not at all. He can be neutered also. Just has to be AKC registered or AKC ILP numbered.

The jr program in wonderful. I can't express enough how much fun it was to do the dog shows with Tofu Pup, while she competed in jrs and breed. Some of our greatest moments and funniest moments, and of course, memorable moments were from all the years we traveled to dog shows. For most of that time, we averaged over 100 dog shows a year. I think she learned a lot of lifes lessons during that time. Rising early, helping with the dogs, grooming for the ring, and trying her best, all the while spending time with her best friend and teammate, Markie. It was a magical time for me, as a parent, savoring the moments, knowing she would grow up and have her own life.
Now she lives away, but still is an intricate part of Rabbit Run. I appreciate all she does with the puppies and adults.

Thank you, Tofu Pup, for all the memories.
 
I started out in Jr, and I hated it. Over 4 years of showing, and I won once....when there was no competition. I took class after class. Trimmed my own dog (actually did all of the grooming).

The people to won showed push button dogs. Champions that all they had to do was not interfere with the dog stacking and gaiting itself.

In the Special (Sheltie special, that is), that I showed at, 3 people in the class (including me). The girl who won...yeah. Her dog looked like he'd been pulled out of the back yard. Covered in dirt, not brushed, not trimmed etc. She won because she knew the judge. (Literally.)

I believe I was 14 when I started showing with the adults, and it was much funner. And I won. Amazing, right there.
 
Well, two very different experiences.

All I can say is that I enjoyed showing in Juniors. I worked very hard, and put a lot of effort into learning about showing, training, and grooming. Sometimes I won and sometimes I lost, and sometimes I felt like I should have placed higher than I did, but that's part of the learning experience.

In the end, it really doesn't matter who beat me, or who I beat, or who had the fancypants-top-winning dog to show in juniors, because we've all moved on to bigger and better things. Many of the Sheltie kids who I competed against in juniors are now starting successful handling careers and breeding programs. Some of them (like me) are more casually involved in dogs. In any case, for me at least, with time and age and perspective, the wins and losses don't matter nearly as much as the time I spent with Mark, the values I learned, and the friends I made.

You mileage may vary. As I recall, your daughter is already involved in 4-H, which is another fantastic program. Having Jake will give her the opportunity to try both 4-H and Juniors, and to figure out which she would rather focus on - which is a great opportunity in itself.
 
thanks for the feedback. It's good to see both experiences so that we can go into it with open eyes. Tofu you are correct, we are doing 4-h too. But you can do only your county and state fair each year and I would like her to be able to do more. We can't afford a real ambitious year but at least we can do 3 or 4 more this summer. Maybe we will meet some of you guys there.:biggrin2:
 
I'd like to hear how your 4H program works for juniors, we are having trouble getting the kids to stay interested and my boss has tasked me with trying to do something a bit more fun. I'm starting by having demo dogs the kids can try out(mine) who have been trained to do much higher levels of agility than they are currently doing so they can see what fun it is after the hard part of training is done.
 
thanks for the feedback. It's good to see both experiences so that we can go into it with open eyes. Tofu you are correct, we are doing 4-h too. But you can do only your county and state fair each year and I would like her to be able to do more. We can't afford a real ambitious year but at least we can do 3 or 4 more this summer. Maybe we will meet some of you guys there.:biggrin2:

Sounds like a great plan! My cousin who in the summer while school is out does Jr handling. She did I think 3 or 4 shows last summer as she was just starting out. Shes planning on doing it again this summer too however its hard for her to do it during the school year because she also competitive dances so she does that 7 nights a week, plus school work..my aunt keeps her busy! She's already asked me if she can do some shows this summer so she seems to enjoy it!
 
You can also do the UKC junior program, which is a lot of fun, and in a laid back atmosphere. The juniors at the shows around here get a lot of great experience with a lot of different breeds. Many of us often bring more dogs than we alone can handle, and find good juniors to take in extra dogs. I know around here, there's a lady that travels all over with her TEN Samoyeds, and always hunts down all of the juniors in the shows to take her dogs in. They have a lot of fun doing it. The last one I was at, I had a junior take my pup in while I handled my male, and there were several others in the class. The junior ended up taking my pup to a BOB and Group 3 (and took 3 or 4 other dogs in for people as well).
From what I've seen, there's a lot more opportunity, if you have a junior who'd like the experience, to get to show extra dogs in UKC.
 
I'd like to hear how your 4H program works for juniors,

Not sure how to do quotes so I hope that one showed up correctly.

4H dog projects include You & Your Dog, Obedience, Showmanship, and Performance. You & Your Dog is a project of your choosing. You could do flea life cycle, heartworms, diseases, breed information, etc. Obedience covers beginning and advanced obedience training and rally. Showmanship teaches the basics of dog showmanship. Performance includes agility, drill team, and canine freestyle.

Showmanship teaches how to stack, stand for exam, gaiting patterns, etc. We will need to get together with someone who shows shelties to learn the particulars of grooming for show and presenting a sheltie. Right now my daughter can take her dog and do an "out & back" with no problem. She has done other patterns but she doesn't remember the names of them:lol:

I will also look into UKC shows, I'm sure she would love the opportunity to show other dogs.
 
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