Sandstorm needs a very firm NO correction-nothing else works!!

I agree. Ignoring Bailey's behavior doesn't work. I need to tell her "no" or "hey".

I think it depends on the sheltie. Shelties are known to be sensitive,, so firm "no's" don't usually work. The real sensitive ones will shut down if you are too firm. So, I think it depends on the sheltie. Positive reenforcement alone works on a lot of shelties, especially the sensitive ones, but not all.

Bailey is definitely not a sensitive sheltie. Positive reenforcement alone will not work on her. She needs a firm "no" or "hey". Sometimes that doesn't even work. She will just smile and continue doing what she was doing. I don't think she really knows that "no" is a bad thing. She does stop when I say "hey".
 
Your comment about Americans being loud cracked me up. I happen to think it is somehow linked to DNA. Therefore, I am quiet and reserved due to my Danish roots (there's some English and a whole thread of French who moved to Canada who moved to Nebraska who moved to...anyway). And my husband is boisterous due to his Italian lineage... just a thought.


Back on topic, Duncan is one of those super sensitive Shelties. I can give him a look and he knows he's done something wrong. His response is to come do a perfect "come front" with his ears tucked back. That is, unless he is super-excited. If the barking starts in my house, it begins in a round (usually with Pierre as the instigating barker). If I clear my throat, sometimes that works. If it doesn't, I move to an "excuse me?" And if all else fails, they get the "HEY, SHUSH!!" I really don't like to shout...
 
Lovely said:
Your comment about Americans being loud cracked me up. I happen to think it is somehow linked to DNA. Therefore, I am quiet and reserved due to my Danish roots (there's some English and a whole thread of French who moved to Canada who moved to Nebraska who moved to...anyway). And my husband is boisterous due to his Italian lineage... just a thought.
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I'm Jewish and Italian. There's no hope for me and my family. We're as loud as they come.
 
take4roll10 said:
I agree. Ignoring Bailey's behavior doesn't work. I need to tell her "no" or "hey".

I think it depends on the sheltie. Shelties are known to be sensitive,, so firm "no's" don't usually work. The real sensitive ones will shut down if you are too firm. So, I think it depends on the sheltie. Positive reenforcement alone works on a lot of shelties, especially the sensitive ones, but not all.

Bailey is definitely not a sensitive sheltie. Positive reenforcement alone will not work on her. She needs a firm "no" or "hey". Sometimes that doesn't even work. She will just smile and continue doing what she was doing. I don't think she really knows that "no" is a bad thing. She does stop when I say "hey".
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Megan is the same way as Bailey, not sensitive enough to respond to only positive reinforcement. At this point she's not a real pleaser yet either, but she is food motivated and pine cone chasing in the back yard motivated, :lol:.

I felt so bad last night, I actually yelled at her for getting into the cat food AFTER I had just told her not to :eek2:. She did it right in front of me as I was saying "Leave it, leave it". I felt so bad for yelling, but she could care less. I did kiss up though :o
 
take4roll10 said:
I'm Jewish and Italian. There's no hope for me and my family. We're as loud as they come.
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That's funny because DH is actually Jewish and Italian also, he just got the Italian looks more than anything. The first few times I met his family, I must have been shock-white the whole time because they can bicker over the smallest nuance and then be all smiles the next minute, only to get back down to it in their next breath!
 
Lovely said:
That's funny because DH is actually Jewish and Italian also, he just got the Italian looks more than anything. The first few times I met his family, I must have been shock-white the whole time because they can bicker over the smallest nuance and then be all smiles the next minute, only to get back down to it in their next breath!
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LOL yup that's how my family is too. Oh and did I mention we are all originally from Brooklyn? That doesn't help us :lol:
 
take4roll10 said:
LOL yup that's how my family is too. Oh and did I mention we are all originally from Brooklyn? That doesn't help us :lol:
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You must have a strong New Yorkers accent, which I LOVE btw! When my DH runs the Boston Marathon, I love the accents, attittudes, all of it. I feel like I can be myself out there, attitude and all and not have to apologize continually for being my bold self!
 
Sandstorm had a great day- he sat in the kitchen and looked out the glass door at the neighbors in their yard, did not bark. We sat on the front lawn and the deck, he was great!!! He followed me outside (dragging leash) and we looked at all the shrubs greening up- I told him what each one was. Even when we took a walk he was better, more in control when I was firm. To think that was all he needed- I do have to be careful though, and really pick my battles and do it right.
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Back on topic....when I try to correct Indy for his annoying barking, he gets all skittish and antsy, and just goes and hides....makes it difficult to praise him for when he finally stops.

I'm going to have to read this thread again and see what worked for you.
 
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