Surprise From Acana (Yay for Fromm)

Mom2Melli

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Let me start by saying I have been hunting for the perfect sheltie food for some time now. I want to support gallbladder health so want the lower fat and I have no need for high protein since we are not excessively active.

This bit about the sheltie gallbladder is a large driver in my food choice. My personal criteria is 1. Responsible company with no recalls ever 2. No Chinese ingredients 3. No chicken (2 of 3 can't do chicken) 4. No grain 5. None of the crazy high protein and fat (I go for 24-26% protein and as low as possible fat without getting into grains as filler which most low fat foods do). 6. No much fish in the recipe. The waters are SO contaminated that I don't trust much fish for myself or dogs these days. They have reported radiation from Japan all over the US West Coast / Canada West Coast already. So . . .

Fromm Gold has some nice options. Their Reduced Activity Senior (fowl), Gold Coast (fish), and Gold Prairie Large Breed Adult (red meats) have some of the lowest fat around, responsible company, grainfree (the Reduced Activity does have some grain but the Golds don't), no Chinese ingredients. The shelties are on the Fromm Gold Prairie Large Breed Adult and are doing fabulously (12% fat). VERY pleased with this food. I had used the 4 star with them and they didn't like it as well and the fiber is lower too. The Golds have 6% fiber which helps with those anal glands. Apparently, the food tastes better too and they are very happy with it.

Then . . . Shay, my shepherd, has the most sensitive stomach in the world. He gets the grumbly tummy pre-bloaty kind of thing. For nearly TWO years he has been rock solid on Acana Ranchlands. I opened a new bag and he was getting the grumbles 2-3 times a week. I removed everything from his diet except food. Still grumbles. I finally posed this to a FB Herding Group I am in (mostly ACD's & kelpies but we have a few of the "cutsy" fluffy shelties around and a few shepherds). I had 3 options . . . 1. They changed the recipe (they did change it back in the summer but removing potatoes is not exactly a problem). 2. Bad bag (hard to track that down since I didn't keep the UPC). 3. Other??? Someone explained, which was actually confirmed by Acana, that the Regionals that have multiple meat sources vary their formula based on what shows up at the plant that week. Seriously, they CHANGE their recipe from lot to lot, bag to bag, and even sometimes from bottom to top of a single bag. Are you kidding me? They don't have a set formula? They seriously bake dog food by "winging it"? Yep. There might be more lamb and less beef or more pork and fish in ratio to beef. They just come up with a plan with leftovers from the single source foods that must follow a recipe. They told me to pick a Single like beef or pork and try that until I find one that sits well with him or try another Acana bag. Oh well. At $86 a bag (in the US) I am not buying another bag in hopes that one will be OK. On the upside, the outdoors cat is LOVING the Acana mixed in with her regular cat kibble. It has taurine, she's good for a short time, it's a mix anyway. It's high protein.

Fromm, in contrast, spent a huge amount of time calling me and talking with me about their consistent recipe, my needs, their production, and such. Shay is now happily eating Fromm with the shelties and doing great!

Yay for Fromm!
 
I've had the same experience as you with Fromm...wonderful, responsive customer service and great results from the Puppy, Adult and Senior Gold formulas. My girls who were always overweight lost and maintained a great weight on the Senior Gold.

Unfortunately, after the recent gastro virus that went through my house, I've had to switch them to a limited ingredient food for now (the Gold formulas have several proteins) so we're using Earthborn's lamb formula at the moment. We'll eventually be switching back to Fromm though. It's a great company and an excellent food. I'm glad you've had such good results with it!
 
Interesting information about Arcana. I guess we shouldn't be too surprised by anything that happens with pet foods. :( Honestly, I'd have done the same thing upon learning what you learned and that's switch foods.

My three are on Fromm's 4-Star (with grains) line. I went with them because of reports from folks here, dogfoodadvisor.com, and talking to Fromm reps at some local pet expos.

What I like about the 4-Star line is it is a single protein food, something I've been using, by choice, for Edan ever since he had his gallbladder removed a few years ago. Grain free never sat well on Edan's stomach either (mush for poop before even 50% through a change over) but the 4-Star grains are good grains - brown rice and oatmeal for example, not wheat and corn. If I ever wanted to try grain free again there is a 4-Star grain free line as well.
 
That is what the guys eat but they are iron bellies. I swap between gold and the 4 stars to give them variety. Probably wasting my time though as Sca is the dog that has to taste everything as it just might be food. Spitfire is not far behind him and eats bugs all the time :o
 
Fromm sounds wonderful -- if we ever need to switch, that would be our choice. Right now, we're feeding Great Life with excellent outcome.
 
good for the girls

I started both my girls on Fromm as puppies and not the puppy formula they got the grain free lamb...

talking to their reps was really informative and I thought they just knew their stuff.

I had switched the girls to real food after puppyhood because I am so concerned about what they ingest. For me it works well.

With the whole moving process there just wasn't time to really cook for them properly. So I went back on Fromm for the interim and they had NO issues going back to kibble for a bit until I could get re-established. I don't feed them chicken because my previous girl had extreme issues with it later in life. I am terrified of what is fed to chickens lately, so unless I know the source of my chicken meat I steer clear. I just think it speaks volumes that the girls did fine. Food choice is such a personal deal, but I can cast my vote in with Fromm because it has been good for us

But if the girls could talk, and got to choose, I think they would opt for eating out at a chinese restaurant daily, they go NUTs when I get occasional take out. :biggrin2:
 
My new 8 week old puppy is on Fromm gold, her breeder has nothing but good things to say about the product and company. Being a first time puppy owner it's great to hear what others have to say about Fromm.
 
That is what the guys eat but they are iron bellies. I swap between gold and the 4 stars to give them variety. Probably wasting my time though as Sca is the dog that has to taste everything as it just might be food. Spitfire is not far behind him and eats bugs all the time :o

what is with the attraction to bugs:gaah...Savannah has always sought out bugs to supplement her diet since she was a wee one. I never knew a dog to do this, the crunchier the better, ugh...I hate seeing legs dangling out of her muzzle.
 
what is with the attraction to bugs:gaah...Savannah has always sought out bugs to supplement her diet since she was a wee one. I never knew a dog to do this, the crunchier the better, ugh...I hate seeing legs dangling out of her muzzle.

That is one mental image I can do without! :ick
Cleo just likes to play with them until they are dead.
 
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