The grooming products - lift and volume

[helps]

Hi guys,

I was wondering if you have any recommendations for grooming products that would lift/volume sheltie's coat? I wouldn't use it often, just few times per year for shows.... I mean, my dog has got great coat on his own, he still gets nice placements at shows, but I feel left behind/naive, being the only one who doesn't use any sprays to volume my dog's coat. Last weekend I came to the exhibition and watched breeders to use some kind of "magical" sprays on their dogs. One of them was right next to me, so I watched how she made her not-very-fluffy dog look terrific, so at the end he looked like he had even more coat than mine. Also it did look very naturally, breeder used fingers and then brush and it was a miracle, lol.

So - what would you recommend, do you have any tips?

 

[mbfrench]

Hi guys,

I was wondering if you have any recommendations for grooming products that would lift/volume sheltie's coat? I wouldn't use it often, just few times per year for shows.... I mean, my dog has got great coat on his own, he still gets nice placements at shows, but I feel left behind/naive, being the only one who doesn't use any sprays to volume my dog's coat. Last weekend I came to the exhibition and watched breeders to use some kind of "magical" sprays on their dogs. One of them was right next to me, so I watched how she made her not-very-fluffy dog look terrific, so at the end he looked like he had even more coat than mine. Also it did look very naturally, breeder used fingers and then brush and it was a miracle, lol.

So - what would you recommend, do you have any tips?

You did't ask??

I dont show my dogs,and they pretty much are natural all day,every day. But I do have a can of CC Coat dressing,for those special pictures or outings that I want them to look fuller.

Advice from the breeders/handlers here is your best choice,as I am sure they have mch more experiance than I

 

[corbinam]

I just bought Chris Christensen's Thick and Thicker Volumizing Protein (I used it after shampooing) and it seemed to make a difference for a few days. I don't think that alone would give your dog a poofy coat, but I think it would help.

 

[helps]

You did't ask??

I dont show my dogs,and they pretty much are natural all day,every day. But I do have a can of CC Coat dressing,for those special pictures or outings that I want them to look fuller.

Advice from the breeders/handlers here is your best choice,as I am sure they have mch more experiance than I

I didn't, because somehow these people take it so seriously, I'm afraid they don't want to share their "secrets"

what is CC coat dressing? can you give me a link?

Thanks for the tip on Chris Christensen, I can get it over here, too. Though, the thing/spray that the breeder used was really making a difference. She really just took dog out of the kennel, used spray on him and after few mins he was REALLY fluffy compared to how he looked like when she took him out. So I was really shocked

 

[corbinam]

I didn't, because somehow these people take it so seriously, I'm afraid they don't want to share their "secrets"

what is CC coat dressing? can you give me a link?

Thanks for the tip on Chris Christensen, I can get it over here, too. Though, the thing/spray that the breeder used was really making a difference. She really just took dog out of the kennel, used spray on him and after few mins he was REALLY fluffy compared to how he looked like when she took him out. So I was really shocked

I looked up Thick and Thicker and found that there is a spray, too: http://www.chrissystems.com/pet-grooming-show-dog-and-cat-styling-aids.aspx

Here's the Coat Dressing Michele was talking about (I think):
http://www.chrissystems.com/coatlink-coat-dressing-info.aspx

 

[Lightplum]

As long as the dog has sufficient undercoat you can get by with just using cholestrol and grooming powder. You work it deep into the rough down to the skin, once its in there all you have to do is mist it with water and brush upwards on the rough and it will hold on its own if they have undercoat.

Now if they do not have undercoat you will have to use Hairspray to help keep it up. You spray it at the root of the rough and it will hold it up, and work your way around..

Now im not sure how your kennel club works or the rules of product. In the US they are fairly lenient on product use but I still make sure its not obvious and it doesnt come off on your hands when you touch the dog!

 

[Lightplum]

coat dressing

We or rather I use the coat dressing as more of an aid to make the coat behave. If they are in that coat growth where it can get a slight wave to it if you spray it on since its a hydrating product it helps the coat lay flat.

 

[Ann]

I shampoo for shows with Chris Christensen Spectrum One (make sure you use the One, not the Ten) which really helps give the coat body. Then I use the Thick and Thicker foam in the ruff after shampooing while the dog is in the tub. You use it like a conditioner (just in the ruff) and then rinse it out. I think it really makes a difference in how her ruff stands up and I wouldn't be without it.

At the shows, I use cholesterol plus talc and some chalk in her ruff and that does the job. I do a coat at home the day before the show too. Then you can put a touch of volumizer in the ruff at the show -- comes in creams that you can mix with water and spray on or gel that you rub in your hands and apply -- for the finishing touch. Poof! You have ruff!

You can learn so much from watching breeders or handlers at shows. Usually they're pretty nice if you ask. Sometimes people don't want to share tips, but most are good about it.

 

[helps]

Thanks a lot all of you. i'll look around a bit more and then make a decision.
And wow about cholestrol ... never thought it could be used like that. I can't even imagine that

 

[BarbV]

I use Coat Dressing as well for extra control and lift....think of it like a hairspray. Its wonderful, but will leave residue.

As will ANY product you use. So if you are not showing, you really need to ask yourself why. Any additional product means more baths. I maybe use it when I just feel like poofing up the boys a little.

Show breeders use other products like chalk to fluff up the fur, but again, it leaves a residue.

The real question is what are you trying to achieve and why. If this is a pet dog, I wouldn't bother too much. That being said, a good dry shampoo like Show Off and a leave-in conditioner, like Ice on ice by CC is a good investment. It does not seem to leave residue, helps facilitate brushing and extends the time between full baths required.

My tuppence worth.