First of all I just want to say I am in no way against conformation shows, and I am not trying to start any arguments. I understand lots of people enjoy them. Heck I love to watch them I just don't enjoy being in the ring. I guess I just wish there was less primping and more of a natural look to the dogs that show, and less politics involved. Which is why if I ever decide to show again it will be with UKC. I also enjoy reading what everyone is posting and seeing the different opinions! Like my OP said this conversation started because a kennel doesn't show in conformation but does show in schutzhund and sells working dogs, and show breeders are upset and bad mouthing this kennel. Now you cant tell me that even though these people don't step in the ring that their dogs are not of good breeding quality. Because the GSD's don't walk on their hocks or have a back that looks like a banana they cant be a good dog I don't think people would be paying upward of $50,000 for unsound dog! Another quick question We all know double coated breeds blow coat and that bitches blow coat even more than males. So why cant people/judges look past this? I understand a sheltie in its full coat is a beautiful sight, but blowing coat is natural and shouldn't be penalized in the ring. It would make showing those pesky females so much easier. Of course I am not talking about taking a dog in the ring with clumps of fur hanging out or anything. When I was showing it was just such a pain in the butt to try to schedule showing around when Belle was going to be in full coat, or to plan on going to a show only to have her start blowing coat. It would just be one less thing to have to worry about.