Would you trial on bare concrete ground

The flooring was not disclosed to us. I couldn't watch the video that Ashley posted but I'll bet it was the same. Here's a normally fast border collie running at that trial.

http://youtu.be/39lnQ7Xgjv4

How is this even agility? :no:

This was the organizer's comment to the video "Great handling! Why poor thing? It's just 1min in the ring, that's why its its a invitational bases only competition for season dogs. All sports do have risk. Only the well balanced one will make the difference." Wha..?? I have no words.

Everyone is sucking up to this person (I think they are afraid of pissing him off - he does have a huge ego) and making comments about how it was a well organized trial and it went great and thanking him for his efforts. It really makes me wonder if they GET IT - that safety is a huge thing and should be a priority over the prizes, the location, etc. :uhoh:
 
I had to close the window halfway through. I was disgusted by it :no: Poor dogs. It's a wonder none of them were hurt.
They should let me at him. I have no reason to want to suck up to him and have no problem ripping him one for all of the poor dogs who could've been hurt due to his stupidity.
 
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HopeShelties said:
I had to close the window halfway through. I was disgusted by it :no: Poor dogs. It's a wonder none of them were hurt.
They should let me at him. I have no reason to want to suck up to him and have no problem ripping him one for all of the poor dogs who could've been hurt due to his stupidity.
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Sounds like me and my temper! He better be happy he never has to meet me. He'd have to take 3 aspirin to get rid of the headache I'd give him!:mad:
 
romeosangiovese said:
The flooring was not disclosed to us. I couldn't watch the video that Ashley posted but I'll bet it was the same. Here's a normally fast border collie running at that trial.

http://youtu.be/39lnQ7Xgjv4

How is this even agility? :no:

This was the organizer's comment to the video "Great handling! Why poor thing? It's just 1min in the ring, that's why its its a invitational bases only competition for season dogs. All sports do have risk. Only the well balanced one will make the difference." Wha..?? I have no words.

Everyone is sucking up to this person (I think they are afraid of pissing him off - he does have a huge ego) and making comments about how it was a well organized trial and it went great and thanking him for his efforts. It really makes me wonder if they GET IT - that safety is a huge thing and should be a priority over the prizes, the location, etc. :uhoh:
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Sure, all sports have risk. But I always thought the risk in agility stemmed from the obstacles, not the flooring. Unless the flooring is a new obstacle. Seems sketchy, too, that flooring was not disclosed ahead of time. The BC didn't look like it was having any fun, looked kind of scared. I'm betting very few people are going to be signing up for that trial next time...
 
celloyogi said:
I'm in agreement with the guy in the background saying "I'm scratching, all right we're done"...
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I noticed that also the first time I watched the video. If you listen closely, he says it twice (if my memory serves me correctly). The first time he says it sort of questioningly as if he is expecting an agreeing response from someone. The second time, he is more emphatic.

I do find it interesting that very few of the posters have actually mentioned the responsibility of the dog owners that would allow their charges to compete under such conditions. I've read through this thread 2 or 3 times, and I believe Justicemom and Sealtainn were the only ones that I remember speaking directly to the responsibility of the owners in this. Perhaps that's due in part to the fact that the original question was: "Would you trial...", so most posters spoke to the fact that they would not trial under such conditions (which I agree, I would not). I'm just wired differently. My first thought was: "How could any pet owner allow this?" The organizers are wrong, I get that. But if no-one participates, the organizers have nothing to organize.

I am also surprised that the original poster has yet to actually say exactly where this happened. Wouldn't one assume that if it happened once, it will happen again --- putting more dogs at risk? Corbinam did mention that the AKC produced an advisory on this event, but I have not yet been able to find it.
 
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celloyogi said:
Sure, all sports have risk. But I always thought the risk in agility stemmed from the obstacles, not the flooring. Unless the flooring is a new obstacle. Seems sketchy, too, that flooring was not disclosed ahead of time. The BC didn't look like it was having any fun, looked kind of scared. I'm betting very few people are going to be signing up for that trial next time...
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A dog can injure themselves on the flooring or any flooring!!!
 
JLSOhio51 said:
I do find it interesting that very few of the posters have actually mentioned the responsibility of the dog owners that would allow their charges to compete under such conditions. I've read through this thread 2 or 3 times, and I believe Justicemom and Sealtainn were the only ones that I remember speaking directly to the responsibility of the owners in this. Perhaps that's due in part to the fact that the original question was: "Would you trial...", so most posters spoke to the fact that they would not trial under such conditions (which I agree, I would not). I'm just wired differently. My first thought was: "How could any pet owner allow this?" The organizers are wrong, I get that. But if no-one participates, the organizers have nothing to organize.
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That was my original thought when I first saw the video posted on Facebook, and that was my response in that forum. Everyone was quick to jump on AKC (and yes, it is deplorable that they would organize it/allow it), but I cannot believe that those people did not scratch their dogs. That sends a pretty strong message to the governing/sanctioning body when they have a trial set up and everyone goes home.
 
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