Blood in Ellie's Urine

Lahree said:
Really? Was she born that way? Ellie wasn't. That is what freaked me out.
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I'm assuming she was born this way. She was given to me at about 5 or 6 mos. by my neighbor. Although I watched her everyday when her owner went to work I didn't check her like I would my own pup. I should add that she also started getting urine burns around it and that has stopped since using the wipes also. I would have paniced if I thought Ellies had been cut off also. I probably would have passed out. I can't imagine how frightened you must have been.
 
Lahree said:
You got that right. I FREAKED! Where the #ell did it GO?!? I NEVER ever thought that body parts suddenly got sucked up inside! I kept thinking--OMG, is that why she's bleeding--it got torn off?!? I know it sounds funny and I will grant a full pardon to anyone who laughs. :razz:
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I have never heard of a vulva inverting later in life, never. I have seen lots of dogs with small ones and they were always like that. Sometimes if they get fat ,a skin fold can drop over it and make it look inverted. Truely weird.

I am so sorry for you and Ellie.
 
Lahree said:
You got that right. I FREAKED! Where the #ell did it GO?!? I NEVER ever thought that body parts suddenly got sucked up inside! I kept thinking--OMG, is that why she's bleeding--it got torn off?!? I know it sounds funny and I will grant a full pardon to anyone who laughs. :razz:
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No laughing from me neither, you have every right to be freaked out. I would have been too. Not a laughing matter at all, I would be as horrified as you were.

I'm so sorry that you and Ellie are going through this. We're all here for you, to help in any way that we can. Lean on us and your hubby and you will get through this!
 
Poor Ellie, Ive also never heard of it happening later on in life...poor little girl. Can you maybe get a second opinion before the expensive surgery? Or even have another vet look at it and see what they think? Poor thing cant seem to catch a break!

But on a lighter note you did make me giggle about buying your vet a new truck and having missellie for a license plate!! I feel the same way..im sure Ive campaigned my vets dogs all over the US :)
 
Justicemom said:
I have never heard of a vulva inverting later in life, never.
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Really?? Oh great. THat's even worse when another vet has not even heard of it! I do know that it was always there until I looked the other day. She's not fat by any means. It just was *poof* gone. It looked like someone had taken black paint and painted where it was. That's another reason I freaked out because I thought it was bruising. There is just now a small slit there. The vet got some of the black material off but he said that Ellie was very unhappy with him for trying to remove it. :( I am going to fill up the bathtub with water and make her stand in it to help soak it so I can get as much off of her as I can. I want to get it super clean but I don't want to hurt her.

I was looking at normal female dog vulva's on the internet (Please Lord, never let anyone seize my computer and search my files) and Ellie's was never as far out as a normal vulva is. Her's had a distinct ring around it, but the "button" was obviously there.

There was no active blood this morning, so I am thankful for that.

Thank you all so much for your words of encouragement! I can't tell you how much I appreciate it! I love this forum! That's how I found out to catch Ellie's urnie with a soup laddle!

Ellis is always happy to get hot dogs--too bad it means she is sick when she gets them. :sadsmile:
 
I think two of our forum shelties have had this surgery. My Katie did not even have a vulva. She had a built one. It has been so long I have forgotten what hers looked like. She was born a hermaphrodite and had surgery when she was 8 weeks old. She was fine till around a year old and started having crystals in her urine- she was on a low dose of Antibiotics all of her life and cranberry capsules.
I am so sorry this has happened to Ellie- poor dear has been through so much lately.
I would get a second opinion since it is a costly surgery.
 
OMG! I am SO embarassed! I was looking up photos of vulvas and I found a thread about a woman who owned a dog with an inverted vulva and her dog is going to have surgery. She posted a link to a photo of one and it looks exactly like what Ellie looked like before it disappeared into a slit. So, I am a doofus! Ellie has always had an inverted vulva! No wonder Dr. Shelli had never heard of it before! I haven't had a female dog in 14 years, so I guess I never thought about it before.

That just goes back to the whole spay gone wrong situation. WHY didn't they mention she had an inverted vulva?? Why hasn't my regular vet mentioned it before? (Probably because he thought most adults know what a normal one looks like). I am so embarassed!!

Here is the link:
http://www.dogforums.com/general-dog-forum/84883-i-am-just-raging.html
 
ANd I found this:

"If you suspect your new puppy has a RV there are holistic ways of preventing infection. It is also very important that this pup is not spayed until she has her first heat cycle because most times the vulva will correct itself as a result of that heat cycle. If you spay prior to the first heat you could be subjecting the pup to a lifetime of infections. Be sure and ask your vet if they have ever dealt with this as there are vets who have never seen a case and would not know what they are looking at. If that is the case please seek out another vet so you are not advised to spay your pup prior to first heat."

I SWEAR I AM GOING TO SUE THAT SPAY AND NEUTER CLINIC!!
 
Lahree said:
OMG! I am SO embarassed! I was looking up photos of vulvas and I found a thread about a woman who owned a dog with an inverted vulva and her dog is going to have surgery. She posted a link to a photo of one and it looks exactly like what Ellie looked like before it disappeared into a slit. So, I am a doofus! Ellie has always had an inverted vulva! No wonder Dr. Shelli had never heard of it before! I haven't had a female dog in 14 years, so I guess I never thought about it before.

That just goes back to the whole spay gone wrong situation. WHY didn't they mention she had an inverted vulva?? Why hasn't my regular vet mentioned it before? (Probably because he thought most adults know what a normal one looks like). I am so embarassed!!

Here is the link:
http://www.dogforums.com/general-dog-forum/84883-i-am-just-raging.html
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That's what Bailey's vulva looks like too. My vet said it wasn't inverted, but it was "immature." I researched an inverted vulva and did read that you should let them have one heat cycle. my vet insisted Bailey's UTI's would get better after she was spayed. I even went to another vet for a second opinion and he said hers wasn't inverted either and I should spay her before she goes into heat. I'm still convinced her vulva is inverted. Maybe most vets are just not familiar with it? I just hope Bailey doesn't have any issues later in life.
 
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