ELLIE BIT ME--TWICE!! (Long rant)

Yes, and this is my opinion, only

When you have to supress play and excitement (gosh knows Ellie is FULL of that, I think lol) unwanted behaviour pops up with frustration in other places.
So yes, I agree with the others with the ouch ouch ouch method, for sure.
But I definitely WOULD reward her for the structured walk and let her spent that pent up energy by letting her RIIIIPPPP somehow... an outlet even training new tricks or something.. new focus etc?
Get her to chase/bite the ball. tug toy, etc.... if she bites you, game over and ignore behaviour. Maybe that helps make her tired AND content

You and I were posting at the same time. I like your opinion because it matches mine! LOL! :lol:

The only time Ellie snapped at our kitty is when she came home from the board and train. She didnt like anyone for a few days, lol. It's hard to be good. It did occur to me that the structuerd walk was making her frustrated. She offered me her baby when I took the leash off and after giving her the loving, but I had to get ready. Guess she got frustrated. She is like magic on the walks, I guess I should give her a play reward. It's worth a try I think.
 
I think she may need that extra play time after the walk. Was she overheated from the walk at all? It know it's been really hot and humid even in the mornings.
 
I think she may need that extra play time after the walk. Was she overheated from the walk at all? It know it's been really hot and humid even in the mornings.

I am thinking that's right.

No, she isn't overheated at all. I walk at 6 am so it's still fairly cool. A lot of people have their sprinklers running in the morning, so there is a lot of cool mist being blown around and there is usually a nice breeze blowing. I HATE hot, so I am willing to get up as early as it takes to avoid it!
 
I'm so sorry you have to keep going through things with your willful lady! I bet years from now, this will seem like a humorous distant memory.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel overly worried about it because your nervousness will translate to the pup. I agree with everyone else - scream like your life depends on it! And perhaps more sheer physical activity for Ellie? Does she LIKE fetch, running, something else?
 
I'm so sorry you have to keep going through things with your willful lady! I bet years from now, this will seem like a humorous distant memory.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel overly worried about it because your nervousness will translate to the pup. I agree with everyone else - scream like your life depends on it! And perhaps more sheer physical activity for Ellie? Does she LIKE fetch, running, something else?

She loves playing with a hard plastic beachball, but it's way too hot for that outside right now. What we do let her play with outside is chasing water from the waterhose. She loves that! She also stays nice and cool because she is soaked with water. It's a good game for the hot weather. Inside she plays with her babies. We throw them and she'll fetch or play tug-of-war. She also plays with the cat.
 
Does she get her meals, etc. right on time? Emma doesn't like it if she doesn't get hers on time. This morning, Dad (who is in charge of the biscuits when I am at work) didn't give her the one for 10:00 and didn't heed the Sheltie stare. Mom said Emma took a nip at Dad's pantleg because he forgot. Shame on Dad!
 
Does she get her meals, etc. right on time? Emma doesn't like it if she doesn't get hers on time. This morning, Dad (who is in charge of the biscuits when I am at work) didn't give her the one for 10:00 and didn't heed the Sheltie stare. Mom said Emma took a nip at Dad's pantleg because he forgot. Shame on Dad!

LOL! No one forgets to give Ellie her meals on time. Neither one of us can miss a big-eyed, sad-faced Sheltie staring in your face and whining should you happen to go 2 seconds past her breakfast and dinner meal. :biggrin2::rolleyes2:
 
Maybe Ellie just doesn't have good bite inhibition?

She seems to be biting for attention and I would ignore her completely (no attention at all, no eye contact, no yelling, nothing) as someone else has suggested.

But the reason why it broke skin is probably because she doesn't have bite inhibition? Was she mouthy to your/your hands as a pup? Did she play alot with siblings or other dogs and gotten good feedback on how hard she bites? The more feedback she gets about her biting, the better her bite - ie. it won't be hard and painful.
 
Maybe Ellie just doesn't have good bite inhibition?

She seems to be biting for attention and I would ignore her completely (no attention at all, no eye contact, no yelling, nothing) as someone else has suggested.

But the reason why it broke skin is probably because she doesn't have bite inhibition? Was she mouthy to your/your hands as a pup? Did she play alot with siblings or other dogs and gotten good feedback on how hard she bites? The more feedback she gets about her biting, the better her bite - ie. it won't be hard and painful.

Well, that's the weird thing. She does have good bite inhibition (until yesterday that is!!). We had to work and work with her. When she was a pup and with her other sibilings, the breeder said she was one of the puppies that was a "bite and run." She'd bite the other puppies and then take off so there wouldn't be any retribution. Smart as a puppy too! The breeder said she was a spolied-sport. SHE liked to play rough with her brothers and sisters but get mad if they played with HER that way. SIgh.
 
I've been bitten by Tully a number of times - still have a scab on the back of my leg from the last bite. Most people at flyball have been bitten by their dogs at least once. It is just a redirected excitement thing (for want of a better description) and it sounds pretty common in hyper dogs.

Tully has usually bitten me when she is wound up - on the way to the oval to throw the ball for example, and it usually happens because I have tried to stop her getting worked up and instead she kind of redirects the excitement onto my leg. Nowadays if we are walking to the oval I keep her on a tight leash at a distance from my leg - just to be safe. She doesnt mean it but when she is wound up she has no inhibitions (bite or otherwise).

I agree giving her an outlet for her wound up energy is a good idea. Plus recognising the signs when she is wound up but getting frustrated with not letting it out. I know its hard - my problem is Tully is so small sometimes I can't see she is hyped up - unless the barking starts or sometimes she does a little run like she is going to chase something. Then I step out of the way of her mouth and walk fast.
 
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