The 'circle work' is from Greg Derrett's foundation DVD. It is basically having the dog run beside you while you run circles and then figure 8's. You start off slow, at walking or a slow jog, then you increase the speed as the dog understands what it is you want from him/her. You then add front crosses and post turns while running. This is all done on the flat. Basically, it teaches the dog to follow you and your body language.
evaluate a book/ DVD?
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The 'circle work' is from Greg Derrett's foundation DVD. It is basically having the dog run beside you while you run circles and then figure 8's. You start off slow, at walking or a slow jog, then you increase the speed as the dog understands what it is you want from him/her. You then add front crosses and post turns while running. This is all done on the flat. Basically, it teaches the dog to follow you and your body language.
SheltieChe
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Ania, would you let me know or PM me your thoughts on GD DVD's? I find I learn well from DVD and am really happy with SG success with one jump. Do not have weave one but Che does not seems to have any trouble with weaves, he is single stepping but finds his way even from some distance and is not popping if I do not pull him out by my moves, thought I do have to run with him all the way yet. Che is 14 months so I am not putting too much pressure on weaves yet so we are still slower than should but it is the only thing.
I was going to buy GD videos but just signed up not with one but with 2 wonderful trainers who both use Linda M system so now I am torn....
I was going to buy GD videos but just signed up not with one but with 2 wonderful trainers who both use Linda M system so now I am torn....
HopeShelties
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From the look of the foundation dvd, a lot of it would be beneficial to anyone, not just someone following his system. As far as the other dvds, they are going to conflict with what is taught in the APHS, as Linda's APHS is a motion based system, and Greg's is more position based.
k9kreationz
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I'm so glad someone else is able to explain the difference btwn Greg and Linda's systems and also review the DVD's. I tried, but sorry SheltieChe, I know I wasn't that much of help.
romeosangiovese
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Thanks Ania! I will pick up Greg Derrett's DVD.
HopeShelties, I suppose which of the two handling method to pick would depend on the dog and how it reads cues? And also which a person is more inclined towards (ie. positioning or movement)? I'm not following any particular handling method now tho' I think Romeo is following my movement (if I stop he stops) more than where I am standing.
HopeShelties, I suppose which of the two handling method to pick would depend on the dog and how it reads cues? And also which a person is more inclined towards (ie. positioning or movement)? I'm not following any particular handling method now tho' I think Romeo is following my movement (if I stop he stops) more than where I am standing.
DogIsMyMantra
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Not Hopeshelties of course, but felt like I would throw my two cents in anyways.
The choice of a handling system isn't based so much on how a dog reads cues. Linda's system uses natural cues that all dogs respond to (whether we want them to or not!) and teaches the handler how to take advantage of the dog's natural response to motion. Greg's system is based on trained cues and requires you to train the dog to respond to position despite what your motion may be cueing them.
Both are well designed systems that allow handlers to be very successful in communicating with their dog, but I would argue that the choice to use a particular handling system usually comes down to handler preferences. I think mobility plays a big part in it (do you want to/can you run with your dog), as well as social environment. For example, if you have no one in your area who trains GD's system, you are going to have a harder time being successful with it.
SheltieChe
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I am picking up GD DVD too, I thought/ read about it and am coming to conclusion that it would be hard to state that one way of handling would fit all handlers and all dogs... knowing all options of handling seems like a useful bag of tricks form which I would choose what comes more naturally to me and my dogs.
I really like GD second DVD (I have not watched the third yet 
). He gives you great drills to practice FC, RC etc and explains exactly why he would do a FC at a certain place vs another etc. I think it is good no matter what system you teach. I did not teach my dogs the RC the way he says in the first DVD, nor do my dogs know left and right, and still I can do what he shows in this second DVD. It was worth the money I spent. It also comes with a little book with all the grids for you.
Once I am a little more experience I will order his last DVD where he teaches you to analyze a course. I need to learn to do that!
). He gives you great drills to practice FC, RC etc and explains exactly why he would do a FC at a certain place vs another etc. I think it is good no matter what system you teach. I did not teach my dogs the RC the way he says in the first DVD, nor do my dogs know left and right, and still I can do what he shows in this second DVD. It was worth the money I spent. It also comes with a little book with all the grids for you.Once I am a little more experience I will order his last DVD where he teaches you to analyze a course. I need to learn to do that!
romeosangiovese
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Thanks DogIsMyMantra! That was very helpful. I'm still a newbie but think having a handling system in place would be a good idea so that my cues are consistent and my dog doesn't get confused! I'll check both out to see what comes more naturally to me and which I can pick up and understand more easily!
SheltieChe
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Got video on demand Go distance part 1, watched about half way, HopeShelties is totally right, book is SO MUCH better. I am glad to see some visual but book is much more detailed and precise. Book is structured different from video.
I also ordered new book of Linda M on handling to add to Shame about handler by Greg Derett DVD.
Really like Success with one jump by SG. I like when people give detailed explanation and logical why and how- works well for me.
I also ordered new book of Linda M on handling to add to Shame about handler by Greg Derett DVD.
Really like Success with one jump by SG. I like when people give detailed explanation and logical why and how- works well for me.