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Hoping Koko's 3 bad things are over for now

Discussion in 'Diseases & Illnesses' started by Margi, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Ann

    Ann Moderator

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    I'm sorry you've had such a rough few time with Koko, and glad that most of the issues are resolved. I know incontinence can be a problem in older spayed girls but I don't know if the same is true of boys. For what it's worth, I've had good luck adding a cranberry supplement to their diet. It really has helped some of mine who are leakers. The other solution to consider is a belly band that can catch it when it happens....better than your bed! Poor him, and poor you!
     
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  2. Darren

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    Sorry to see what you and Koko are going through Margi. I hope things start to get better quickly, little Monty and I will be keeping you both in our thoughts ❤
     
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  3. ghggp

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    I second the belly band idea. I had to use it on Logan near his end of life. His was more like dribbling though. Maybe restricting water intake during the evening kinda like we do with puppies might help too?
    Just a thought

    Hopefully, you can resolve soon. Can you see a specialist?
     
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  4. Chris

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    Everyone has given you some great ideas. I think puppy pads are do bomb -- just put them on his bed or wherever he sleeps. It can really save you a mess.
     
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  5. Piper's mom

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    Poor Koko and poor you for all the worrying you've had to do! I'm glad the mass was just a lipoma (Piper has a few of these and I worried too while waiting for vet appointment).
    Hopefully you can figure out why the sudden bladder problems. I agree limiting water might help but can be hard to do when you have multiple dogs. Perhaps just more potty breaks would help?
     
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  6. Hanne

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    Margi - Maybe you know these things :wink2: - google translated.
    The prognosis of a dog with incontinence is highly dependent on the cause.

    If the problems are due to a urinary tract infection, the prognosis is good.

    In the case of reduced hormone production, the prognosis is usually good,
    but it may take some time before an appropriate treatment program is found.

    Unfortunately, it is far worse if the problems are caused by damage
    to the nerves controlling the bladder control.
    There are various options for treatment, but generally the prognosis is poor.
     
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  7. Margi

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    The vet ran all the blood work and urinalysis tests and found no infection, so its either some kind of nerve problem or something like that causing the sudden release of the bladder.

    I got a chuckle thinking about my husband sleeping on doggie depends (Koko sleeps on his side of the bed only) "hey I'm not that old yet!!" LOL

    Actually Koko doesn't drink much! If I see him twice a day at the water station I'm shocked. When he drinks he's like a camel--over there a long time, not like the other two that drink several times a day. (Well when you bark as much as Benson your throat gets dry and you need a drink! LOL) Monitored potty breaks are helping--pain in the butt for me at 10 pm in the cold and dark, but better than a wet bed or sofa. If I don't see him peeing in the yard, I'm taking him out on leash three times a day. Almost like having a puppy again :(

    On the upside, Koko is feeling much better!! And I mean that not as just better from surgery, but he's already more active and engaged with us/me. I didn't realize how much he had been isolating himself. He's now following me around and laying next to me again, waking me up at 6:30 with his nose whine revelry, begging for lunch and dinner 30 minutes early and was asking my husband for pets last night! I should have noticed all those things and realized long ago he wasn't feeling good. Feeling like a bad sheltie mom for not seeing it!
     
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  8. Piper's mom

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    Who knows Margi...if the abscessed tooth was that bad perhaps it was disrupting his normal potty routine. Hopefully the sudden urination is gone along with his tooth.
     
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  9. nwMindy

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    Did you ever find the cause? I was stunned to read your post with such a similar story to mine. I have a 4 year old female sheltie named Wynnie. She experienced an abcessed tooth in January. Due to a shortage of vets in the area, I had to wait two weeks to get her in for dental surgery. The emergency clinic gave her antibiotics in the meantime. Her poor snoot was swollen. Within the past 24 hours, she has intermittently lost all bladder control. Previously, she has become quite aggressive in the months after this abcessed tooth episode and attacking the other dogs in the family. She is superbly housetrained and obedient but her behavior has changed for the worse even after the surgery took place. I can't help but feel the delayed surgery, even with antibiotics in the interim, are the root of this bladder and strange aggression problem. I may be extraplolating too much here, but my great grandmother in her 90s had been hallucinating recently. She is the most intelligent and reality based person I'd ever met in my life. It turns out, in senior citizens, a UTI can cause hallucinations. I am stuck on the idea that in spite of surgery and antibiotics, this new bladder problem for my sheltie is related somehow to the delayed treatment of her abcessed molar. I slept/waited with my dog all night in the parking lot of the emergency ER vet in January just to get a diagnosis and antibiotics for her tooth and had to wait two weeks for surgery. I was lucky because I've been with the vet for 20 years as he was booked out for any kind of surgery 3 months out. Reading your post helped to confirm my suspicions. I'd be very grateful to hear how it went or from any other similar stories from anyone. Thank you
     
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  10. Ron Atkinson

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    I'm glad Koko is feeling better and hope you're on the mend with all the issues. It's great hearing that you see Kokos activity level is returning to normal. Give him a treat for me. :)
     

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