One sick dog.....Bacca, my boy!

All positive thoughts and prayers for Bacca.

This sounds so familiar to me because of the setter I had. What does Bacca's hair look like at the very base of the hair folicle?

I know you have tried so hard with Bacca, we are sending all our Best Wishes for him and you.
 
Barb, I am not sure if I remember everything you have been going through I do agree you are looking at liver or thyroid issues. Has ultrasound been done? They usually least expensive as procedure goes and experienced tech can help.
 
I don't have any advice or suggestions but I just want you to know I am thinking of you and Bacca and sending positive thoughts for you.
 
For Bacca skin

Barb I am not a quack, I have been through the mill with my rescue and he is my boy. I go to an internest, allergist and vet! I say that because max has some sludge in his bladder which will have to come out if worsens, pancreatitus and allergies. He came to me with an awful odor that I diagnosed after a lot of reading and talking on line. Anyway he has had a cyst in his ear, and staph on his belly by his penis, the recommendations where meds that didn't work, because of his pancreas I give him supplement but keep cortisone it a minimum. Buy yourself on line sovereign silver gel. I mix it with sacred franckensense and apply several times a day. It's a very soothing gel. My vet said even the silver alone would have been enough. I don't know if you can buy this in a store in Canada but you certainly can online! It's not expensive ( franckensense is and should be bought through a reputable essential oils dealer if you want to. Max also went from hyper thyroid to now hypothyroid!! Believe me I have been around the block and have learned a lot the past three years. The silver may not help Bacca but it homeopathic and can't hurt! I don't know what's going on inside him but I a have cured two skin issues on the outside. Sounds like those baths are irritating his skin more. My prayers are with you and I k ow how frustrating it is. We do because we love but spending the big money and not knowing is human if it will cure is nothing to feel guilty about!!!!
 
Barb I am not a quack, I have been through the mill with my rescue and he is my boy. I go to an internest, allergist and vet! I say that because max has some sludge in his bladder which will have to come out if worsens, pancreatitus and allergies. He came to me with an awful odor that I diagnosed after a lot of reading and talking on line. Anyway he has had a cyst in his ear, and staph on his belly by his penis, the recommendations where meds that didn't work, because of his pancreas I give him supplement but keep cortisone it a minimum. Buy yourself on line sovereign silver gel. I mix it with sacred franckensense and apply several times a day. It's a very soothing gel. My vet said even the silver alone would have been enough. I don't know if you can buy this in a store in Canada but you certainly can online! It's not expensive ( franckensense is and should be bought through a reputable essential oils dealer if you want to. Max also went from hyper thyroid to now hypothyroid!! Believe me I have been around the block and have learned a lot the past three years. The silver may not help Bacca but it homeopathic and can't hurt! I don't know what's going on inside him but I a have cured two skin issues on the outside. Sounds like those baths are irritating his skin more. My prayers are with you and I k ow how frustrating it is. We do because we love but spending the big money and not knowing is human if it will cure is nothing to feel guilty about!!!!

Eyes spinning here....but I will look into it and keep and open mind.
 
Barb, I am not sure if I remember everything you have been going through I do agree you are looking at liver or thyroid issues. Has ultrasound been done? They usually least expensive as procedure goes and experienced tech can help.

Grrrr! Yes, ultrasounds done. And this is why I'm so angry at my vets and now working with a new one.

Ultrasound done but inconclusive...maybe liver shunt, maybe gall stones. They send me to a specialist hospital for biopsy. Makes sense. Bacca goes in and they do another ultrasound. Why? Because this hospital does not take results from other vets. So they redo his bloodwork and another ultrasound and same day present me with a bill for $5-6k of surgery....which of course requires a biopsy first. Because they found the same inconclusive result.

And this is why I'm going to my breeders vet to start all over again . In the meantime, this boy is suffering with his skin funk. Its red and irritated.

I can't wait for Wednesday. I've decided not to do any further treatments on him until then.

:gaah
 
Oh Barb my heart just aches for Bacca and you. I am glad that you have forgone the skin meds, air will do it good and maybe it will stop weeping, it sounds just awful.

Many positives coming over for you and Bacca. Holding good thoughts and keeping you both in my sheltie prayers.

Love to you both,

Kate
 
ok, so u/s points to the liver problem albeit unclear what exactly?
Now you also have blood work which shows what? low BUN, low albumin, elevated ALT, AST, high bile acids?
So you are looking at either exploratory lap, which may or may not fix the issue/ intrahepatic shunts are inoperable usually while gallbladder with sludge can be easily removed/ or your second choice due to lack of $ for sx is to find holistic vet who knows some potent chinese herbs and put your pup on organic raw high quality meat because in such cases you need reduced amount of very good protein...
grrr, those are tough choices:eek2:
 
Barb I am not a quack, I have been through the mill with my rescue and he is my boy. I go to an internest, allergist and vet! I say that because max has some sludge in his bladder which will have to come out if worsens, pancreatitus and allergies. He came to me with an awful odor that I diagnosed after a lot of reading and talking on line. Anyway he has had a cyst in his ear, and staph on his belly by his penis, the recommendations where meds that didn't work, because of his pancreas I give him supplement but keep cortisone it a minimum. Buy yourself on line sovereign silver gel. I mix it with sacred franckensense and apply several times a day. It's a very soothing gel. My vet said even the silver alone would have been enough. I don't know if you can buy this in a store in Canada but you certainly can online! It's not expensive ( franckensense is and should be bought through a reputable essential oils dealer if you want to. Max also went from hyper thyroid to now hypothyroid!! Believe me I have been around the block and have learned a lot the past three years. The silver may not help Bacca but it homeopathic and can't hurt! I don't know what's going on inside him but I a have cured two skin issues on the outside. Sounds like those baths are irritating his skin more. My prayers are with you and I k ow how frustrating it is. We do because we love but spending the big money and not knowing is human if it will cure is nothing to feel guilty about!!!!

I can vouch for the Sovereign Silver as well and yes, it is available in Canada's at many health food stores.

I'll admit to being VERY sceptical when it was recommended to me, but it really does work. Its an antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral. At worst it will do nothing, there's nothing in it that will make anything worse.

If the frankensense gel isn't available (I've never heard of it, but thats not to say you can't get it in Canada), I'm sure someone at the health food store can recommend something else that you could mix the Sovereign Silver with.

Thinking of you and Bacca and hoping you get some resolution soon!
 
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Barb, my thoughts with you and Bacca. I do not remember all history happened, if I were to guess I would think that shunt would be hereditary and some changes are likely to be seen since very young puppy, poor development, problems with anesthesia during neutering, etc.
GB issues are most often developed process so changes do not start till later in life.
 
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