Piper news?

[tesslynn]

It is very hard to rationalize the behavior of the "rescue" (I hesitate to use the word because it is so far from legitimate rescue behavior) other than to assume that the purpose of kidnapping Piper was solely because Veronica is a breeder, and in the mind of this person and her followers, breeders are the devil. According to them, there are no good breeders. Only rescue is worthwhile. It's the new militant mindset of some rescue people that is really dangerous, and this case is proof of that. Since their legal costs have been financed by the AR organizations, this theory certainly appears to make sense.

The shame of all this is the damage that's been done to real rescues, and the dogs that need their help. Mom2Melli said it well in describing how uneasy she would feel about taking a dog whose history is unknown. I'm afraid many people will feel that way because of this woman's irrational actions.

And now, the appeal is scheduled for August 27. As if Veronica and Piper haven't had enough.

I still do NOT understand HOW a rescue or any person, place, etc., can TAKE a pet from their owner, when the owner proved that the pet BELONGED to them, and was not an abused, neglected animal. So they can "rescue" any dog from a breeder just because they do not care for the breeding industry. That is illogical to me, hard to process, but I am the first to admit, much of what goes on these days is just plain crazy with the morals, standards, nonadherence to laws or principles. Why would ANY judge allow this to continue. Enough already...

 

[tesslynn]

I believe in always trying to be the bigger person (as hard as it is, and sometimes I fail at this). The bigger person doesn't go on the opposition's facebook page and post "neener neener neener!" comments about Veronica's win. Just because they are/have been childish, doesn't mean Veronica's supporters have to. That's what I was trying to say.

and I agree wholeheartedly...but it doesn't seem like either side has adults, which is tragic..

 

[Margi]

And now, the appeal is scheduled for August 27. As if Veronica and Piper haven't had enough.

Take heart, Ann! This is the trial coming up in August, where I hope Veronica gets some justice for the pain, suffering and lost money! Yesterday was the Replevin motion (A legal action to recover the possession of items of Personal Property) which the judge granted.

ENTRY FILED
ORDER FOR REPLEVIN TO PLTF IS GRANTED CASE CONTINUED FOR COURT TRIAL ON AUGUST 27, 2015 @ 11AM IN COURTROOM 13B PER JUDGE BRANDT

I read the article where it seems Judge Brandt had no time for this nonsense, Plaintiffs gave their proof of ownership, COSR's lawyer called one witness, and before being able to get the second one on the stand, Brandt said its over give her back her dog today. I hope its the same judge for the trial and he unloads a can of whoopA** on COSR and the Franklin County Shelter folks! If its a jury trial its kinda hard to find 12 people with no pets or who all hate breeders...or so I'm hoping!

The appeal was filed by attorney Bell because the judge wouldn't even let him present his case against Replevin.

 

[Emmasmom]

I hope its the same judge for the trial and he unloads a can of whoopA** on COSR and the Franklin County Shelter folks! If its a jury trial its kinda hard to find 12 people with no pets or who all hate breeders...or so I'm hoping!.

Same court room, looks like same judge.

 

[Caro]

I am so relieved Piper is back home, it's brought tears to my eyes. I wonder if she is still intact.

Sadly, I think when the court orders damages against the rescue, COSR will just declare bankruptcy and I imagine Sanderbeck will just open up another rescue under another name. Cynical but that seems to be the sort of person she is.

It is very hard to rationalize the behavior of the "rescue" (I hesitate to use the word because it is so far from legitimate rescue behavior) other than to assume that the purpose of kidnapping Piper was solely because Veronica is a breeder, and in the mind of this person and her followers, breeders are the devil. According to them, there are no good breeders. Only rescue is worthwhile. It's the new militant mindset of some rescue people that is really dangerous, and this case is proof of that.

From an economic standpoint, rescue itself supports puppy mills, byb and the irresponsible people who don't bother getting their dog desexed. If not for rescue less dogs would be brought from these sources and then dumped. That's why we must support people who responsibly breed and sell puppies. Otherwise rescues just become a shop front for the dodgy breeders and second hand dealer to irresponsible owners. There is a place for both in our society, in fact having both is crucial it we call ourselves humanity.

 

[Margi]

Sadly, I think when the court orders damages against the rescue, COSR will just declare bankruptcy and I imagine Sanderbeck will just open up another rescue under another name. Cynical but that seems to be the sort of person she is.

Sanderbeck may skate via bankruptcy, but where Veronica's lawyer was earning his fee was naming Franklin County shelter and employees in the suit. Deep pocket tactics. They cannot go bankrupt and, as I read the complaint, broke Ohio laws by their actions. And at least there a few heads may roll.

 

[Caro]

I hope so. I guess even if the court splits the damages Veronica will get the half from the County.

 

[tesslynn]

as rotten as this has been, maybe the "silver lining" is it will set some precedence for the future.

Caro- you cited my fear, bad eggs do EXACTLY what you said, they come back under different monikers and repeat their bad behavior and usually worse than ever to somehow give their previous actions justification, sigh. And it is SO true that where it needs to get cleared up is starting with the horrific puppy mill industry.

If ANY dog has a microchip they should NEVER be rehomed until sufficient EFFORT is done to secure the RIGHTFUL owner, because that is WHY the ID is done in the first place. That has to be brought forward that it was totally ignored, and dismissed without proper time factor and protocols. The Franklin Cty Shelter is in error, holiday's do NOT grant different procedure-no exempt clause for that, that is illogical, and most likely illegal. And if they are in kahoots with any rescue for providing purebreds by skirting protocol, that should be brought out and dealt with. That is UNACCEPTABLE...

 

[Emmasmom]

Caro - I have heard there is an AR group funding the rescue. I also heard HSUS is involved.

Unfortunately, the damage has been done and the state and city will suffer with lost revenue. I am sure if they counted it up, it would come to way more than this law suit. Just wish the rescue would do the right thing and drop it. She has even refused to answer the judge's question as to where Piper has been.

 

[Caro]

Wow, AR - is that one organisation or several? Sounds sinister to me - where do they get that kind of money? Rescue groups here would crawl over coals for the type of money that's been spent in the courts on this case. I just can't understand where they would get that kind of money to spend on one dog that is wanted by its owner.