Strangest color I have ever seen in a sable

Tabitha said:
I would think she'd be bi-factored. From what I understand, the only way a blue merle and a sable can produce a bi-black puppy is if they are both bi-factored. If not could someone a little more knowledgeable than myself explain this to me please?:o
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You have no way of knowing if she is tri factored or bi factored. Unless she produces a bi down the line sometime.

You do know her parents are Sable-bi factored and Tri factored-bi factored with a merle gene because they produced a biblack. But for your puppy-she got the sable gene from her mom and either a bi gene or a tri gene from her dad. You have no way of knowing which one she got. Now if her dad was a bi then you would know.

For example, Ember is a bi blue. Her mom was bi factored sable(her dad was a bi black so we knew this), her dad a blue merle. There were no bi colored dogs in the sires' pedigree except 3 generations back there was a bi blue dog. No bi at all since except that one dog. Everyone thought he would only produce tri factored puppies. Nope wrong 2 bi blues in Embers litter so you never know.
 
Justicemom said:
You have no way of knowing if she is tri factored or bi factored. Unless she produces a bi down the line sometime.

You do know her parents are Sable-bi factored and Tri factored-bi factored with a merle gene because they produced a biblack. But for your puppy-she got the sable gene from her mom and either a bi gene or a tri gene from her dad. You have no way of knowing which one she got. Now if her dad was a bi then you would know.

For example, Ember is a bi blue. Her mom was bi factored sable(her dad was a bi black so we knew this), her dad a blue merle. There were no bi colored dogs in the sires' pedigree except 3 generations back there was a bi blue dog. No bi at all since except that one dog. Everyone thought he would only produce tri factored puppies. Nope wrong 2 bi blues in Embers litter so you never know.
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I thought we were talking about the mom and not the puppy:winkgrin:
 
Yes and I own her, Lil' Lady. Looks like my girl except that thin white stripe on her face goes down further.

Sable and mahogeny.

Sire a tri, dam a sable.
 
Fun discussion:smile2:

Here is a picture that shows it is almost impossible to tell a Tri factored Sable from a Bi factored sable without neither knowing the genetics behind the dogs or knowing what they produced.

One of these dogs has a Bi black sire and one of them has a bi factored Tri Sire. The sitting one is a male 4 yrs old(in the picture), the one laying down is female 2 yrs old. Which is one is the Tri factored one? which one is Bi factored?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...26070533.10493.100001978188328&type=3&theater
 
I'm going to guess, but you are right, this could go either way, not knowing the true genetics behind them.
The dog sitting is the tri-factored , and the bitch is the bi-factored.
 
missjenneygirl said:
I'm going to guess, but you are right, this could go either way, not knowing the true genetics behind them.
The dog sitting is the tri-factored , and the bitch is the bi-factored.
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I agree but I'm pretty sure that Diva had bi puppies so that makes it likely that her mom would be bi factored too.....
and I think it was mentioned somewhere that Justice is tri factored but you certainly couldn't tell just by looking:winkgrin:
 
Jess041 said:
Ok I cheated, but Justice is the bi-factored one. I couldn't help myself.. had to know! lol
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Cheater...:biggrin2:

Yes Justice the sitting one is Bi factored. His dad is a bi black.

Hope is Diva's mom. She never had had a bi puppy just Tri but that didn't rule her out as bi factored. Diva never have a Bi puppy when breed twice to bi colored dogs and once to a bi facotred blue merle. -14 puppies SO the odds went up that Diva was Tri/Tri. However her Sable sister had a Tri when bred to a BI and that sealed. Hope is Tri factored.
 
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