Toby, the Reactive Rescue

Have you tried to desensitize him by taking noises and making them progressively louder? For instance a siren played on the stereo at 2 then 3 then 4 etc. It would not take care of his whole spectrum but might help in general

That's easier said than done. The only thing he consistently reacts to is the sound of cars starting. His reaction to the fire alarm was too upsetting to him, I don't think it would be beneficial at this point to try and desensitize him to it.

Some days he's completely fine, other days he's not. When he starts carrying on its not because we're anticipating it, he usually startles us.

The wind and things being blown by the wind were the biggest culprits. How can I possibly desensitize that? When the wind was bothering him he'd act up when he heard sounds on tv and when the heat came on. He also began carrying on about the mistletoe and was suspiciously eying our stuffed sheltie (or it could have been the speaker the sheltie was on, but I think it was the sheltie.

Then, after being thorougly frustrated for 3 days, he didn't act up once yesterday and performed like a star at obedience. He didn't even react at the loud heater or ceiling fan coming on, though my trainer saw me eying it and told me that I was going to make him react. But like I said, he never does when I expect him to. :(

Do you live at my house? LOL I finally ripped the darn thing off the ceiling one night. Seriously water boiling water will set it off. I wonder why my dogs hate the sound, I stay so calm.

Sound sensitivity is hard. Jazz was very bad with it. Best thing I could do was not react all. Just let him go though it and figure it out and praise when he is calm. As long as he isn't hurting himself let him be. Seriously I tried everything with Jazz and that was the only thing that worked. Any reaction on my part made it worse. Also I had to make any effort to quite worrying about it as that made her worse. Dogs read us like books if we are nervous, worried and upset so are they.

The smoke detector in our kitchen isn't usually too bad, except that we changed the battery when day light savings time started so now its extra sensitive. My dh didn't actually burn the toast he was making, it was the steam that set it off.

If we don't react, he doesn't stop. He just rushes frantically around the house barking, whining, panting, etc. When the smoke detector went off and he started freaking, my top priority was to calm him down. He was so beside himself though he was barking as if he was in pain and when I realized that he was not going to calm down, I started trying to fan the smoke detector. I was VERY annoyed with my DH, who just continued to butter his toast like nothing was happening instead of trying to help. :mad:

What am I supposed to do when he's rushing around in a panic and won't come to me? :confused2:

When he has one of his bad days, should I have him leashed near me so that he's easier to console (I usually just make him lie down, or massage his neck/rough when he's really worked up)? :confused2:

He's beginning to remind me of Ruckus, Ruckusluvr's dog, only to a lesser extent and without the fear aggression. I'd PM her but she hasn't been online for months...
 
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.If we don't react, he doesn't stop. He just rushes frantically around the house barking, whining, panting, etc. When the smoke detector went off and he started freaking, my top priority was to calm him down. He was so beside himself though he was barking as if he was in pain and when I realized that he was not going to calm down, I started trying to fan the smoke detector. I was VERY annoyed with my DH, who just continued to butter his toast like nothing was happening instead of trying to help. :mad:

What am I supposed to do when he's rushing around in a panic and won't come to me? :confused2:

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Your not going to like my answer but your DH did the right thing. Ignore him. Certainly turn off the smoke dectot but don't do anything with him. If he is rushing about let him learn to calm down by hiself. As long as he is not hurting himself he will calm down. If you don't want to do that then just put him in a down but don't pet him until he is calm. Trust me, Jazz was just like this and she didn't of noises. She needed to learn to calm herself, I couldn't teach her. If he is really that bad maybe you should talk to your vet about antianexity meds during the training process.
 
Your not going to like my answer but your DH did the right thing. Ignore him. Certainly turn off the smoke dectot but don't do anything with him. If he is rushing about let him learn to calm down by hiself. As long as he is not hurting himself he will calm down. If you don't want to do that then just put him in a down but don't pet him until he is calm. Trust me, Jazz was just like this and she didn't of noises. She needed to learn to calm herself, I couldn't teach her. If he is really that bad maybe you should talk to your vet about antianexity meds during the training process.

I DID put him in a down, it didn't make a difference. I didn't talk, yell or get upset. As soon as I realized how frantic Toby was I reached for his collar and put him in a down. He kept yelping over the noise and trying to run, so I tried reaching for the oven mit with one hand to fan the smoke detector while I tried to keep him in the down, since he wasn't calming down. I did the BEST I could in a BAD, situation, made worse by my dh, who wasn't trying to be helpful by keeping calm, btw. He was annoyed with the smoke detector and Toby (He doesn't understand Toby has anxiety), so instead he just stood there and ignore me struggling to calm Toby and turn of the smoke detector, then complained about it afterward.

Allowing Toby to run around the house when he's in a panic does not calm him down, it just feeds his anxiety more. Instead of gradually calming he finds more things to be upset about. I've tried every approach I can think of to deal with this or let him deal with it.

Putting him in a down usually helps (except with the smoke detector) but its not always enough. He'll lie at alert and look for things that are scary, then pop up and carry on. Massaging his neck/pulling at his scruff seems to be the only thing to snap him out of that panicked state, which is why I do it.

Maybe you're right, maybe he needs to be medicated on these days. He's not like this every day though and I'm hesitant to medicate him on a daily basis. Some days are completely fine with minimal freak outs, if any. Then other days he's a nervous wreck.
 
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Have you tried the Telington Touch? There are many practitioners in ON that are certified to use it. They can probalbly teach you some calming techniques. TTouch also uses an anxiety wrap. My friend has one for her sheltie that is petrified of thunder. She says it works. You might want to give it a go?
Here is their web site:

http://www.ttouch.com/
 
Interesting. It sounds like he is not always that way. Makes me wonder if there is something common that adds to things. I am sure you have thought on it a lot (based on your posts) but could it be contact with other animals, food, weather, etc that gets him in the mode? I really wish I could tell you something as he sounds like a great pup with one major issue and y'all are giving it 110% trying to help him.
 
Have you tried the Telington Touch? There are many practitioners in ON that are certified to use it. They can probalbly teach you some calming techniques. TTouch also uses an anxiety wrap. My friend has one for her sheltie that is petrified of thunder. She says it works. You might want to give it a go?
Here is their web site:

http://www.ttouch.com/

I'll try anything that helps him. I'll mention it to our trainer, I think I've heard her talk about it.

Interesting. It sounds like he is not always that way. Makes me wonder if there is something common that adds to things. I am sure you have thought on it a lot (based on your posts) but could it be contact with other animals, food, weather, etc that gets him in the mode? I really wish I could tell you something as he sounds like a great pup with one major issue and y'all are giving it 110% trying to help him.

Yeah, the common theme is the wind. He's always noise sensitive but when the wind was howling and blowing things around he was a mess for 3 days.
 
Melissa, I am so sorry you and Toby are having such a hard time. It does sound like you are giving 110% of yourself to the issue. I don't have training advice, but I will tell you a friend of mine that runs a cat rescue swears by "Rescue Remedy", it's a holistic liquid you can put in their drinking water and she says it helps so much with anxiety issues. (Maybe we could ALL use some of that at this time of year! :winkgrin:). If you want more info I will contact her and see. I think most health food type places would carry it, and I doubt it is expensive.

Sharon
 
Uggh... I'm sorry to hear that things aren't getting better at a consistent pace.

Hopefully, with time and a few more mornings of DH burning the toast, Toby will see that the terrible sound is just that.. a terrible sound... but nothing bad happens. I think Justicemom is really on the right track. Toby needs to go through the things that freak him out, with as little help from you as possible, and survive it. The more he "survives" the things that scare him... the better things will be for him. Maybe it would help him to see that YOU have the power to keep him safe and remove the things that scare him. What I mean is.. what if rather than worrying about him, you just made the noise stop? He might calm down about things if he didn't feel like he needed to be on high alert at all times. If he truly believed that YOU could take care of things.. he could relax.

Keep up the good work... and try to keep having patience (even with DH!! lol) Toby is lucky to have you!
 
Melissa, I am so sorry you and Toby are having such a hard time. It does sound like you are giving 110% of yourself to the issue. I don't have training advice, but I will tell you a friend of mine that runs a cat rescue swears by "Rescue Remedy", it's a holistic liquid you can put in their drinking water and she says it helps so much with anxiety issues. (Maybe we could ALL use some of that at this time of year! :winkgrin:). If you want more info I will contact her and see. I think most health food type places would carry it, and I doubt it is expensive.

Sharon

Yeah, I wouldn't mind learning about it. The only one I could find that is available in Canada is this one, and I'm not sure I would give it to my dogs.

http://www.bachflowerscanada.com/rescue drops.htm

It contains clematis, which I read is poisonus to dogs, and I'm not too sure about whether or not 'grape alcohol' is good for dogs either. It talks about use for pets, but there is no specific link for rescue remedy for pets, just the above link.
 
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