What is most important to you?

I thought I'd jump in on that note. EVERYBODY should google the name of their breeder. I wish I had done that. Because we all know what website popped up when I did! Actually I found it on Yahoo first and then Google but whatever. :rolleyes2:

I'm curious....for those that do Google their breeder, what if you don't really find much? Would you see that as good or bad?
 
Honestly I don't think I would have ever thought about it. My finding Janet,was thru a total stranger believe it or not.
I met Elaine on Facebook,and at the time I was totally thrown for a loop one evening chatting with her.

I used my intuitive feeling that I got from Elaine,when she mentioned she could put me in touch with a breeder. I totally trusted her,even though we had never met. My good vibes were reinforced during the first 10 minutes of my conversation with Janet.

Since showing,conformation,agility was not going to be in my future,I wanted a companion sheltie.I've learned a great deal from the forum,and much has been absorbed.
I look forward to my next pup from Janet.Humm...maybe a bi-black:wink2:
 
I admit, I wasn't really looking for "anything" except a moral breeder and a sound dog. With that said, here was my ideas about my first and second dog.

First dog, Miko.
I wanted a male. I wanted him to be sable (think Lassie, but also because my first Sheltie ever in my life, Prince, was sable). I went to a local ASSA meeting (or chapter meeting), met about 8 breeders. Got their contact numbers and called around when I was ready. Oh, I only called those I really felt were good breeders. So this is going by instinct only.

I initially didn't find anyone, mostly because they either just had a litter and most of them were wait-listed. Or they weren't planning on having any litters anytime soon. Duh for me for not contacting them months earlier, lol. I'm learning, right?! When I found a recommended breeder with puppies I went to go see her. It was her first litter and the dams first litter. There were two pups there. One from the litter and a "half brother" from another dam, but same sire. She basically asked me what I was looking for in a dog (as she knew their temperaments - both dogs were about 2.5-3 months old). Did we want an independent dog or one that would follow you around. I chose the latter.

Healthwise, honestly, I didn't even check or ask. No wait, I asked. Don't recall the answer. Miko was who we chose. He has the sweetest temperament. Doesn't really bark, is loyal and a snuggle bug. He's very obedient, but such a softy. One bad tone from my voice and he sits down cuz he thinks I'm mad at him. And although he was sable (well, still is), he's turned dark and I am so in love with that color.

Second dog, Koji
Because I knew the kennel by this point, I went to go see the owner of the kennel (the woman I bought Miko from was a co-owner of the dam/litter, I went to go see the main owner). Anyhow, we were at a dog show. I noticed one very large difference between her 5 dogs and the rest. They weren't barking at everyone and everything and were very well mannered. They basically all were exactly like Miko. lol. So, I went with that breeder again.

She said she wasn't going to breed anymore and I was devasted. So when she offered me her last male pup, I honestly didn't care about anything. I knew I wanted one of her (and may likely always want one of her pups). Her pups all have the same type of temperament. They are all very easy-going, not really barkers. Which is what I love. I also loved her basis for breeding. She says, "I breed dogs we can live with first and foremost and if they turn out to be winners, great!" And all her dogs are great family dogs first.

Koji is a terror, but honestly, I think we did that to him. His upbringing and training. Ugh! I have more to learn in that department.

So, when it's time to buy another Sheltie. I will most likely ask my breeder who, locally, has her dogs and is breeding them. I love the color they mature into, I love their base temperament that all her dogs have. Unless I want a different color (tri/merle), I'll probably find a Daval somewhere. :)

I love this thread. Thanks. I love that some ppl do all the in-depth research and others get referrals. I also think it's a great place, here on the boards, to get recommendations. Now, if only some people would live out here, that'd be great.

And lastly, for a dog on a wait-list. Since my dogs are pets, I don't care to wait on a list. I'll only wait if I'm trying to find a dog specifically for agility or confirmation. But I'd rather find a pet first and if he does agility, great! If not, oh well.
 
I'm curious....for those that do Google their breeder, what if you don't really find much? Would you see that as good or bad?

Gee.. I wonder if it could be breeders may Google potential buyers~It could work that way to.:confused2:

And I also just wanted to add,I know I said agility,conformation was not in my future..I have to tell ya'll that Trapp has taken a real liking to a tennis ball.Actullay last night,he brought me his tennis ball all the way from the porch,into the living room.

And if he could talk..he would have said "mom can we play". So out we went.

He has learned "drop it".So when I throw it,he brings it back.Sometimes he takes a zoom around the shrubs,but he always drops it.
So for a little fun,I threw the tennis ball against the shop wall,so it would bounce 2 or 3 times,and by golly,he caught it once on a bounce. Talk about a proud puppy! Now he really looks forward to it. Who knows~
I wa quite proud of him,totally a very sharpe & smart pup.
 
So, when you find yourself a great breeder, latch on and don't let go!

I totally agree!

My hubby and I found our first sheltie, Molly, through Uncle Henry's, a local penny-pincher type booklet that you can buy for $1 at most gas stations. We had looked at pictures and thought we'd like a sheltie so we bought an Uncle Henry's, found an ad for sheltie puppies, and long story short, we bought a puppy from the folks who posted the ad. Boy were we naive! We took their word for the fact that Molly was healthy, that she had AKC papers (which were promised but never received), and that she would have a good temperment. Of course, all puppies are adorable and we melted and bought Molly on the spot. Don't get me wrong, we loved Molly, but she did have health problems and she had a mean streak to her.

What we learned from our first experience is to only buy from a good breeder. We decided that for our next sheltie, our priorities were 1) find a good breeder; 2) a girl and 3) everything else would take care of itself since we would trust our future breeder to make sure that our puppy was healthy and had a good temperment.

We hit the jackpot when we found Connie (Rabbit Run) and Karen (Shelhaven)! We found them when we went to a dog show to watch the shelties compete and they were so friendly and knowledgable and we just clicked. We asked if they would consider us as parents of one of their future puppies, they said yes, and we patiently waited until they had a girl available for us. They picked out Bailey for us and she is just perfect! We wanted a sheltie as a pet/family member and they couldn't have made a better choice.

What I've learned since adding Joey to our family (at the age of 1, also from Connie and Karen after they decided he was a bit too shy to be a show dog), is that I don't care if our next pup is a boy or a girl, I don't care about the color (although I do prefer sable/white) as long as he or she comes from Rabbit Run or Shelhaven.

Connie (missjenneygirl) and Karen have been wonderfully helpful and supportive and are always available for questions either over the phone or via email. We've stayed in touch, watched them compete in dog shows, and have become good friends (a bonus, for sure!).

All this to say, my absolute top priority is coming from a wonderful breeder, in our case, from Rabbit Run/Shelhaven.
 
I totally agree!

My hubby and I found our first sheltie, Molly, through Uncle Henry's, a local penny-pincher type booklet that you can buy for $1 at most gas stations. We had looked at pictures and thought we'd like a sheltie so we bought an Uncle Henry's, found an ad for sheltie puppies, and long story short, we bought a puppy from the folks who posted the ad. Boy were we naive! We took their word for the fact that Molly was healthy, that she had AKC papers (which were promised but never received), and that she would have a good temperment. Of course, all puppies are adorable and we melted and bought Molly on the spot. Don't get me wrong, we loved Molly, but she did have health problems and she had a mean streak to her.

What we learned from our first experience is to only buy from a good breeder. We decided that for our next sheltie, our priorities were 1) find a good breeder; 2) a girl and 3) everything else would take care of itself since we would trust our future breeder to make sure that our puppy was healthy and had a good temperment.

We hit the jackpot when we found Connie (Rabbit Run) and Karen (Shelhaven)! We found them when we went to a dog show to watch the shelties compete and they were so friendly and knowledgable and we just clicked. We asked if they would consider us as parents of one of their future puppies, they said yes, and we patiently waited until they had a girl available for us. They picked out Bailey for us and she is just perfect! We wanted a sheltie as a pet/family member and they couldn't have made a better choice.

What I've learned since adding Joey to our family (at the age of 1, also from Connie and Karen after they decided he was a bit too shy to be a show dog), is that I don't care if our next pup is a boy or a girl, I don't care about the color (although I do prefer sable/white) as long as he or she comes from Rabbit Run or Shelhaven.

Connie (missjenneygirl) and Karen have been wonderfully helpful and supportive and are always available for questions either over the phone or via email. We've stayed in touch, watched them compete in dog shows, and have become good friends (a bonus, for sure!).

All this to say, my absolute top priority is coming from a wonderful breeder, in our case, from Rabbit Run/Shelhaven.

Yep, that sums up my feelings exactly! I've been tempted sometimes to move beyond that (most recently when I saw Sheltie/Poms in a local pet shop - It broke my heart to let them go). But I know that if we are ever going to break these mills, it has to start with me.

Just because, I thought I would post pictures of Bacca's beautiful parents: Shelhaven's Alaris and Laureate's Rachel Ray...they are both so beautiful.

Bacca inherits his colouring from his Dad and his build from his mom. Still waiting for his adult coat, though!
 

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I got Shadow from my breeder Asharon Sheltie's and swore up and down my next one would be from her also. I love the Blue Merle's and swore I would never have a Sable and White and now I have a sable and white and he is from another breeder and he is a gem . They say everyone gets a once in a liftime dog but I have been blessed with two of them.They have exactly the same temperments and drive and attitude that I look for in an agility dog.
 
Gee.. I wonder if it could be breeders may Google potential buyers~It could work that way to.:confused2:

I googled my name to see the other day. It was VERY scary. It had my name, address, the names of my FAMILY MEMBERS, ect. You can also go to a website and pay to get more detailed information.

If you can't find the breeder by googling then you can always check myspace, facebook, ect. As long as their profile is not set to private you can see their stuff. Most people will have pictures of their homes, pets, ect. in their photo albums. The lady who groomed Smudge has a myspace page, but part of her site is private so I couldn't see all of it. I actually went to her house and saw her shelties. She's legit. :biggrin2:
 
I'm curious....for those that do Google their breeder, what if you don't really find much? Would you see that as good or bad?

If the breeder has a long history of breeding and nothing comes up with a google/yahoo search, then I would consider that a good thing. To me, that means no one had a really bad experience and posted it on any buyer beware sites.
 
Sorry, away at an agility trial for the weekend :)
I do feel confident personally evaluating the pup for correct structure. I would not blindly accept any pup sight unseen, or just go strictly off of what the breeder has to say about a pup. I am someone who MUST meet the pup in person, and get a chance to go over said pup, and evaluate it for what I'm looking for before taking it.

*still reading through thread, so will add/update as I go*
 
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