Bone/Fine Bone

[Narmowen]

Look at the length of the stop, and it isn't the fur on top of his head, as much as it is the throat latch.......where the jawline comes into the neck. Can you send us an example of what you think would be a deep head, and a light head? If the muzzle matched the skull on this dog, the muzzle would be massive and out of proportion.
Here is another example of a head with no depth.
http://www.sheltiesonline.com/ad_archive_2007/rabbit_run_052607.html

Are you using him as an example of a good head?

 

[Narmowen]

so what do you think of Dusty's head?? forgive my bad picture taking skills

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I really enjoy the pictures and the descriptions

Just from the angle of the picture, her head looks too big for her body (even for a Sheltie). If she were in coat, I might feel different, though. Is she young? Around a year old?

I like her stop, and (again, based on this angle), she seems to have a nice head. Overdone for my taste (I prefer my Shelties daintier), but nice. Her bite looks even (again, lol, from this angle). She (he?) also has a nice neck. I love the longer necks. Fine boned (body wise), though, which is partly why her head doesn't match her body. Usually with fine boned, you get the lighter/foxy heads.

 

[BarbV]

Oh yes, I love the Clan Duncan website. Wonderful information....

And, yes I think the dog that BarbV pictured does favor the European style. I would like to here from the European breeders as well, as this has always fascinated me.

Ok, the picture is of my forever pup, Timber. A non-typical pup bred from pure north-american lines.

I personally think his head is extraordinarily pretty, and I sure would like to see more like this fed back into the NA lines.

I just find too many pups looking like mini-collies these days.

 

[MissSuzie]

I personally think his head is extraordinarily pretty, and I sure would like to see more like this fed back into the NA lines.

I agree, he's beautiful. I'm partial to the finer boned dogs and I too prefer the 14" size.

I don't know anything about head size, jaw lines, etc. What I do know is what I, personally, find appearling when I see a dog. But this thread is very interesting.

 

[JessicaR]

Just from the angle of the picture, her head looks too big for her body (even for a Sheltie). If she were in coat, I might feel different, though. Is she young? Around a year old?

I like her stop, and (again, based on this angle), she seems to have a nice head. Overdone for my taste (I prefer my Shelties daintier), but nice. Her bite looks even (again, lol, from this angle). She (he?) also has a nice neck. I love the longer necks. Fine boned (body wise), though, which is partly why her head doesn't match her body. Usually with fine boned, you get the lighter/foxy heads.

He was 10 months old in that picture, he will be 1 on Dec. 22 and yes right now he is the hairless wonder

thanks for the critique I am still trying to figure out what everything looks like compared to what the written standard says.

 

[Narmowen]

He was 10 months old in that picture, he will be 1 on Dec. 22 and yes right now he is the hairless wonder

thanks for the critique I am still trying to figure out what everything looks like compared to what the written standard says.

I do think he has a nice head. I think the reason it looks so big is because he's still growing (body wise) and he's out of coat (yearling uglies-always happen lol!)

 

[Narmowen]

Ok, the picture is of my forever pup, Timber. A non-typical pup bred from pure north-american lines.

I personally think his head is extraordinarily pretty, and I sure would like to see more like this fed back into the NA lines.

I just find too many pups looking like mini-collies these days.

I prefer his look (and my two blues that I posted earlier) rather than the mini-collie heads that I see everywhere in the Sheltie magazines nowadays.

 

[Chris]

Oh yes, I love the Clan Duncan website. Wonderful information....

And, yes I think the dog that BarbV pictured does favor the European style. I would like to here from the European breeders as well, as this has always fascinated me.

I really like this part of the Clan Duncan page best:

"What matters most is a healthy Sheltie with a good personality and enough structural soundness to reach old age without problems in the "get-along." Details of head, expression, length of neck, color, coat, tail carriage, absolutely perfect structure -- these are desirable, but a Sheltie can be stunningly beautiful, amazingly intelligent, loyal and loving, strong and sturdy to the end -- and have faults. They all do. The quest for perfection is the work of generations. "

 

[missjenneygirl]

Narmowen, I hope you're kidding in asking about "his" head. First, it's a bitch. The following is the published critique written by the ASSA National Judge, Ms. Linda More, after awarding Annie, Best of Opposite Sex. I quote...
"This elegant curvy and ladylike sable of absolutely beautiful make and shape had a lovely one-piece head with sweet expression, good spring of rib and was nicely put together overall. These virtues, combined with her easy flowing movement, gave her the edge on the day in very strong bitch competition. As the saying goes, her biggest fault is that she's not mine. She and others of the girls were in strong competition for the Breed win along with the boys."

I think we will all show our beautiful dogs, and let the judges decide.

 

[missjenneygirl]

JessicaR, Dusty has a lovely head. It looks like he has a plush muzzle, enough underjaw, and correct stop placement. I also really like his short tight lip-line. Very nice. You should have a grand time showing him. Good Luck! Keep the pictures coming as he progresses. What is his pedigree?