Donation assistance for rescued CA shelties

It IS a fine distinction. However, I don't see this 92-year-old woman in exactly the same circle of Hell as a pro football player dog fighter, people who light pets on fire for kicks, and people claiming to be a rescue but tying them to trees without food or water til they die and lay there til the vultures come.

I think it is like the TV program "Most Evil". There's levels. Not saying any of the levels are blameless or should be given a free pass, but some clearly are more psychopathic than others and that should be reflected in the legal charges and the public statements about the person.

A friends' great grandson was not tended well on a daily basis (not a one time thing I am saying), the toddler was always left to play alone in the yard and on occasion he would wander off to be returned by a neighbor. One day he fell in their unfenced pool and drowned. They knew they didn't watch well, they knew they should have done better, they were still quite heartbroken. Is that the same as the people I typed about at the Children's Hospital Neurology ward who abused and killed their child by slamming his head against a wall out of revenge on the spouse or smashing his head with an object because he cried? Is that the same as someone who kidnaps a child and tortures her and murders her? No. None of them are blameless, they are not charged the same in court, they are not spoken about the same in the media.

That's all. There's differences. It's still wrong, but there's discrete differences and I would like to see the story accurately reported and the charges accurately reflecting the intent and the results.
 
OMG the photos of those two blue boys - choked me. Donation being sent to the rescue. I am both surprised and not so surprised that people are backing out of adoptions due to home checks. The shelter I volunteer for has seen this happen as well. SO GLAD the shelter is insisting on this.

I am very concerned these dogs go to the RIGHT home not just A home.

I think people just react in the heat and emotion of the moment - "Oh, I'll go and adopt one of those poor dogs" and don't think it all the way through. At least these folks are getting weeded out. Good grief.:uhoh:
 
Cara we just have to disagree then - I have no soft spot for anyone who knowingly abuses or neglects children or animals. Of course, it's not as bad as torture, but she's earned whatever fines and public censure she is getting.
 
It's OK -- as long as these pups are being helped now and she doesn't have the chance to put any animal in such a situation again.
 
In truth, I think none of us know enough facts to make a judgment on what punishment is suitable if any.

Years ago we had what may be a very similar situation, minus the fire, with a long term well known breeder who had been a respected force in the sheltie world. Sadly she had declined mentally to the point where she would forget to feed her dogs for days at a time, no longer kept them clean, etc. One of her own grown children who had come to visit, after being away for a couple of years, was the one who called animal control and had the dogs removed. The breeder in question was devastated, she was beyond understanding how ill she was and the horrific condition that her beloved dogs were now in...and, yes, she did love them. Cases like that are a tragedy all around...both for the human and for the dogs.

This may not be the case here, but with the age listed as in the 90's, I think we have to consider that it may be and we need to leave the judging to those who are right there and can ascertain what the reality actually is.
Trini
 
About 6 years ago I rescued 2 shelties from a breeder that lives about 45 minutes (each way) from me. These dogs were ok looking but one was crazy shy & the other was a dominate personality that would pop out when least expected. When I showed up to her house I could see outdoor kennels (cages) with multiple shelties in them. Heartbreaking! She must have had 30 or more dogs easily & she was in her late 60-70s at least.

I had answered an ad for a sheltie for $50 & didn't mention that I do rescue. Once inside her house I could hear other dogs in other closed off rooms. She also had a crate with shih tzus in the living room. It broke my heart to leave with just the 2 dogs. She gave me the shy one for free because no one could do anything with her. So I called animal control on her & so did a friend. We have tried everything to have her shut down & the dogs removed but she has some sort of connections in this small rural town & no one does anything.

The thing that matters most is that the dogs are cared for. They need an impartial person to sort through everything to see the most accurate account of what's going on. Here in my area you must have a kennel license if you have over 5 domestic animals as pets. There is a $100 fee & you are subject to random pop in visits.

A woman I know had 32 dogs (mostly maltese) & someone reported her to animal control. They came in & took pictures & inspected every animal & made notes. These dogs were well cared for but way too many for her to handle. I got involved & helped her get all of them spayed/neutered & rehomed all but 4. Those are her personal pets & I still get updates on them.

Keeping prayers going for the poor dogs. Just glad they were saved from the fire.
 
Yes Anne thank you. It seems there are several agendas being played out here and the poor dogs are stuck in the middle. If only people would put their needs first!
 
Here is an update on the 2 Sr. boys that SSR took in:

Hi All, just a brief update! Our two little boys are still in the hospital. The younger one (we need proper names!) came in with kennel cough which turned into pneumonia. He is on IVs now, and is not eating, but remains in good spirits and is alert. That is always good news. The older boy had very bad diarrhea (the main reason he needs a re-groom!), which, thankfully, appears to be resolving. Their preliminary blood work shows they both have low thyroid, borderline kidney function, and good liver function. All the blood work will be back tomorrow, so we will know more then. They will need to be hospitalized for at least several more days, and we are hoping that they will be healthy enough (the antibiotics will help with their dental infections) to be neutered soon, but I suspect it will be a while. They are both still 'shell shocked' and we don't expect to see much of their personalities until they are able to go into their foster homes and start to relax. More as I get it! Kathleen
 
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