High Protein Diets

I'm looking at Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream to try on Phoebs. It is sooooo scarey to change her diet after all we went through with her but I think I'd like to lower the protein and fats after reading this thread. She'll be going from 32% protein and 18% fat to 25% protein and 15% fat. She has to have grain free and yeast free food, not an easy combination to find, and she seems to do better on a fish diet. Fingers crossed this works.
 
ClantyreSheltie said:
From page 17 of my favorite nutrition book:

"The quality of a protein is determined by how many of these essential amino acids it contains. The more amino acids a protein includes, the more "digestible" or available it is for your dog. Animal proteins that contain all the amino acids are considered complete. Plant proteins are considered incompete because they are missing l-carnitine and taurine."

Digestibility chart:

1.00 egg white (the measure of digestibility)
.92 muscle meat
.90 organ meat
.89 milk, cheese
.78 fish
.72 rice
.66 oats
.64 wheat
.54 corn
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This is great info! What book is this that you use?

p.s. Alot of the foods compensate for the missing caritene and taurine with other supplements that I'm led to believe are equally effective (I can't tell you off the top of my head what they are....which means I probably need to redo my learning.....!)
 
Protein for Puppy

New to the forum, and I'm loving all the information! (Although with a new puppy it can be a bit overwhelming.:confused2: My sheltie is 12 weeks old, breeder was feeding Kirkland's as it was less expensive having 13 dogs in her "tribe". So after reading I started switching slowly over to Orijen puppy food since I had read good reviews about it. My puppy is 5 1/2 pounds right now (parents were both fairly small at 14"), however even though I made the switch gradually he is having pudding poops all the time. I give him 1/2 cup in the morning and 1/2 cup in the evening. Was mixing about a tbsp. of Merrick Puppy Plate in with it. He loves his food and gobbles it up, but I'm beginning to wonder with his stools if it's too much protein, or perhaps too much chicken? He recently had stools checked, with no worms. Any suggestions?????:rolleyes2:
 
MaddieNC said:
New to the forum, and I'm loving all the information! (Although with a new puppy it can be a bit overwhelming.:confused2: My sheltie is 12 weeks old, breeder was feeding Kirkland's as it was less expensive having 13 dogs in her "tribe". So after reading I started switching slowly over to Orijen puppy food since I had read good reviews about it. My puppy is 5 1/2 pounds right now (parents were both fairly small at 14"), however even though I made the switch gradually he is having pudding poops all the time. I give him 1/2 cup in the morning and 1/2 cup in the evening. Was mixing about a tbsp. of Merrick Puppy Plate in with it. He loves his food and gobbles it up, but I'm beginning to wonder with his stools if it's too much protein, or perhaps too much chicken? He recently had stools checked, with no worms. Any suggestions?????:rolleyes2:
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Orijen is an amazing food, but I too found that it made my dogs stools too soft.

Instead I switched to grain free Acana, which is also made by Champion Petfoods, the company that manufactures Orijen. My dogs do just as well on Acana as they did on Orijen and their poops are firm now.

If you want to try staying on Orijen, you can try mixing canned pumpkin in with the Orijen, its good for all kinds of digestive upsets. Just make sure you get 100% pumpkin and not pumpkin pie filling.
 
MaddieNC said:
My puppy is 5 1/2 pounds right now (parents were both fairly small at 14"), ... I give him 1/2 cup in the morning and 1/2 cup in the evening.
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It might just be too much food for such a little puppy. That will cause the same pudding problems. Reduce the food, or spread it out over more meals, and that might solve the problem.
 
ClantyreSheltie said:
It might just be too much food for such a little puppy. That will cause the same pudding problems. Reduce the food, or spread it out over more meals, and that might solve the problem.
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Good point, I must have skimmed over that part.

That is quite a bit of food for a puppy. I fed that much food to my full grown shelties that are on the large size. Definitely try reducing the amount you're feeding.
 
Thanks!

Thanks for the responsed! I've been adding about a teaspoon of yogurt, but will try to reduce the amount a little and see if that helps! Again, thanks!:biggrin2:
 
Dog food?

I have fed my 7 year old sheltie Bailey, various types of food. I love the contents in Orijen Seven Fish. Bailey is 17 inches high and should weigh 20 -25 lbs. I have had him also on the raw meat diet which worked well to keep his weight down but he ended up with anal gland problems due to the lack of bulk. I also gave him pumpkin and green beans with his food and nothing seemed to work. He is presently on Wellness Core reduced fat due to a recent weight gain. He has not been able to walk for a couple months now and has gained 5 pounds just eating his normal amount of food. Whatever food we decide to use I think it is important to use a high protein content. We have a month to go without ambulating due to a surgery on his wrist. Any ideas to help him lose weight would be helpful.

Thanks,
Sandy and Bailey
 
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