Indy is FREE!!!

I'm glad he's going home, and that the shelter was reasonable in giving him back.

I'm interested to see how the legalities of this shake out, as just like Piper, the shelter probably had legal ownership of him under state law. They had no reason to not neuter him, and they had no compelling reason to give him back. But I'm also sure there is not a lot of legal precedent here, either. We'll see what happens.
 
Dawn, you are wonderful to have gotten the release of little Indy...many kudos to you!!! I am sure Indy will be happy to be going "home" after such a traumatic ordeal and Elizabeth will be very thankful to welcome him back.

Trini
 
Outstanding news!!

Thank you for the photo and update on Indy.
I am overjoyed to hear the news...

Looking for more photos and updates as time provides!

Thanks to everyone involved in making Indy safe.
He looks GREAT and HAPPY TOO!

Just LOVE good news with any rescue... :winkgrin::biggrin2:
 
Wow you make it sound so easy! Can you give us any details on what happened? Was the shelter pretty easy to work with once they had the paperwork? Did they make you or anyone sign a contract saying Indy would not go back to the old owner?

I'm very happy with this outcome. I'm hoping Ms. Brinkley will keep us updated on his progress and rehabilitation!
 
Ann said:
It's a shame these shelters think they have carte blanche to do whatever they want to anyone's dog. There's no oversight for them and I'm sure Elizabeth will deal with that issue separately. I wish her much luck and success with that effort. To perform surgery on dogs who are frightened and unsocialized before their ownership is even established is unforgivable.
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I agree there was no need to rush the neuter until they were positive an owner could not be found. At the same time I'm happy they returned him.
 
ellenspn said:
What a relief, but seriously shelters.....:gaah
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I'm not going to take sides in this issue, because I'm sure the breeder of Indy is a responsible individual and they have proven to care what happens to her dogs, however lets also take a minute to look at everything from the shelters side of things as well.

a) there is no question that they are drastically overwhelmed by this situation. They have 61 dogs that need vet care, grooming and socialization. They have hundreds of people filing applications that they need to sort through, and investigate to make sure that the dogs are going to the best home possible.

Yes on one hand having a ready made solution for one of the dogs that can be quickly taken care of would seem like a good thing, however...

These workers do not know this breeder, what they do know is that one of her dogs ended up in a situation, where if it isn't outright abuse, it is under all considerations wrong.

61 dogs on an acre of land (that is crowded, I live on an acre, I do not consider that enough room for proper exercise). They didn't apparently receive proper grooming, they didn't receive flea medication, they didn't receive proper dental care, they didn't receive proper socialization.

I don't know how Indy ended up with her, but they would want to be sure that he doesn't end up in the same situation again. They waited until they had an intermediary known to both parties who could vouch for the breeder. They nurtured him, why? Probably because they felt he had been through enough.

I know there are plenty of reasons for the breeder to not want the dog fixed. Whether it's because he has wonderful genes and personality and they want to progress the breed, or maybe they would like to hold off for medical reasons, but there is also the worry for the shelter that it is because he is worth more intack.

He's a wonderful dog fixed or not, but at least fixed they have an assurance that he would be more valuable to someone as a companion rather than stuck in a cage purely for breeding purposes.

Again I know this can sound inflammatory, I do not believe that the breeder has done anything wrong, she's done everything right, jumping to rescue a dog of hers that fell into a bad situation, offering to compensate the rescue for the help they provided in getting him out of it and fixed up, ..but the rescue is also trying to handle an immense amount of work, a horrible situation and trying to do it in the most responsible manner possible to guarantee the health and a good life the animals.

Their decisions are understandable even if we don't agree with them.
 
Jess041 said:
Wow you make it sound so easy! Can you give us any details on what happened? Was the shelter pretty easy to work with once they had the paperwork? Did they make you or anyone sign a contract saying Indy would not go back to the old owner?

I'm very happy with this outcome. I'm hoping Ms. Brinkley will keep us updated on his progress and rehabilitation!
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I was so nervous to do this. From all I knew, the shelter was going to really give us a hard time. Elizabeth sent me the paperwork for power of attorney yesterday. She had already provided me with her contract and pictures of Indy from the shelter and from when he was 4 months old.

The first thing I did was go to the Riverside Sheriff's Station to ask them how to proceed. They looked at my power of attorney pw and told me I should have no problem. They gave me a number to call, if the shelter gave me a problem so they could send a sheriff if necessary.

I went to the shelter and after checking in at 2 places finally got to where I needed to be. A tiny office with 2 sweet people Remy and Amy. They heard my story took my paperwork to the management. After the higher ups reviewed the papers, a wonderful girl (didn't get her name) took me to Indy. She was the one who had taken photos and sent them to Elizabeth.

She told me she loved these shelties and was really going to miss them. Of course, we all know how great shelties are! We walked by enclosure after enclosure each with multiple shelties in them. The dogs were very quiet and did not seem agitated. Unusual in a shelter. I think it had to do with this kennel worker's energy.

Next she asked me to identify Indy. No problem with the photos. She carried him to be vet checked for check out and sent me to the adoption office. I wasn't asked to sign anything, except the receipt for Elizabeth's credit card transaction. They charged her $184. They had neutered, vaccinated, treated for fleas, and micro chipped him. They registered the chip to Elizabeth right there. They had waived all kenneling charges due to "the circumstances". They usually charge $15 per day.

After all that, this sweet kennel girl carried Indy to my car and put him into my crate. He is terrified of being leashed.

Other than having neutered him against Elizabeth's wishes, I cannot find any fault with the shelter. It is a lovely state of the art facility. The people I met really seemed to have the best interest of all of the animals in their care at heart.

Side note: The first little office of Amy and Remy also contained 4 kittens romping around and Amy's dog sleeping under her desk. Not what I would ever expect.
 
That is so great to hear! After reading the facebook posts (that you were involved in), I was a little worried. Thank you for helping Elizabeth! You are a great representative of the Sheltie community to step forward and do all that!
 
In California, can a shelter even release an unaltered animal to a member of the general public? I thought they could only transfer to another shelter/rescue which then had to spay/neuter before placement. Pups/kittens are altered at 2 months and then available for placement. Aren't they just following California shelter protocol?
 
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