Caro
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Will definately have a look at your Zoey blog Raya. Its a great idea to keep a record - then when you have been through all this you can impart your knowledge to other new owners, and look back and laugh!
Puppy biting and snipping non stop
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BarbV
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Seriously! I talk to her on the phone - I ask, "How's the puppy, is she leash-broken yet?" "Oh yes," says missjenneygirl, "she walks all around the yard on a leash." Then I come home and discover that the puppy walks all around the yard on a leash... as long as there's no human attached!
Now might be a good time to say a hearty "Thanks, Mom!" to missjenneygirl for caring for the dogs (and unruly puppies) while I'm in New Jersey. She does do a fabulous job, and our puppies are certainly happy, if a little unruly.
Yes, as a Mom, make sure you thank YOUR mom! We do try our best!
missjenneygirl
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Well, thank you Tofu Pup, and Barb too. One of my favorite joys in life is to watch Megan work with a puppy. Her hands are quiet and gentle with them, and her voice is kind. They have always responded so well to her. Since she handles all of them in the ring, they learn to focus on her. Now, when she comes home to visit, they all go wild to be with her.
Just a small update on Zoey. She's been doing better in the last few weeks. We've enrolled her in a puppy class in our local petsmart. She's still biting our legs once and a while but that's all herding and we're slowing working our way towards getting her to stop. However, the snipping has stopped. She softly chews our hand or licks it, so we're really pleased.
She's doing awesome with housetraining. In the last 2 weeks we only had 1 accident inside, so we're really happy about that. Other than that, we are amazed how smart she is. Now she knows how to give her paws :3
Our next big challenge is the tension free walk with the leash, it's a slow process but I'm getting good results. Thanks for your advises and encouragement. I know there are ups and downs, but it's great to see the ups and it keeps us focused and encouraged.
She's doing awesome with housetraining. In the last 2 weeks we only had 1 accident inside, so we're really happy about that. Other than that, we are amazed how smart she is. Now she knows how to give her paws :3
Our next big challenge is the tension free walk with the leash, it's a slow process but I'm getting good results. Thanks for your advises and encouragement. I know there are ups and downs, but it's great to see the ups and it keeps us focused and encouraged.
SheepOfBlue
Premium Member
Great news!
Sca is still a bit of a puller, even more so early in the walk. You will get there Sca gets great marks from people at 7 months (I think he is fooling them) and I am sure your Zoey will be amazing people soon
Sca is still a bit of a puller, even more so early in the walk. You will get there Sca gets great marks from people at 7 months (I think he is fooling them) and I am sure your Zoey will be amazing people soon
labgirl
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I can only agree heartily with that, in fact all gundogs due to using their mouths when working are terrible for chewing on people as pups! When Cadbury was at his worst turning my back and muttering under my breath as though I was really upset worked well.
I read a very interesting article (and if i could find it again I would post the link) and it said that with puppies there are two stages to mouthing. First, its important to teach them to bite gently on your hand, so only warn them for playing too rough - that sounds bizarre, but the theory is if your dog was ever injured, or in serious pain, or even very scared it might feel pushed to bite, if it has learnt to bite gently, then it will not harm you. At least that's the theory.
And then the second phase which comes very quickly is to stop mouthing altogether.
Now the herding is a new one to me, so that should be interesting when sheltie pup comes.
Hey guys!
We're having successes and not so much successes with Zoey. She keeps nipping our legs, so we've moved up a notch and made cans with coins. We haven't used them enough to see if they are dissuasive enough, but we hope that will get better.
The walks haven't improved either; she'll follow and not pull for half the walk, and when she realizes we're heading back home, she'll just lunge and pull the leash, regardless that we stop anytime she pull... so that makes walks very long. We're thinking of getting a harness because the poor thing is just pulling so hard that she could hurt herself.
In the last few weeks we've had her, she grew up really fast. She went from a 6 pounds baby to a 11 pounds puppy.
Here's an up to date picture of the cutey, taken right after the big snowstorm we had up here in Ontario.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4523/12419104620392900169100.jpg
We're having successes and not so much successes with Zoey. She keeps nipping our legs, so we've moved up a notch and made cans with coins. We haven't used them enough to see if they are dissuasive enough, but we hope that will get better.
The walks haven't improved either; she'll follow and not pull for half the walk, and when she realizes we're heading back home, she'll just lunge and pull the leash, regardless that we stop anytime she pull... so that makes walks very long. We're thinking of getting a harness because the poor thing is just pulling so hard that she could hurt herself.
In the last few weeks we've had her, she grew up really fast. She went from a 6 pounds baby to a 11 pounds puppy.
Here's an up to date picture of the cutey, taken right after the big snowstorm we had up here in Ontario.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4523/12419104620392900169100.jpg
take4roll10
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awwww she is too cute!
Have you tried a head halti, snoot loop or easy walker? These are a types of collars that go around the head and snout. It you gives you more control and makes it uncomfortable for the dog to pull.
Have you tried a head halti, snoot loop or easy walker? These are a types of collars that go around the head and snout. It you gives you more control and makes it uncomfortable for the dog to pull.
I recommend the Easy Walker! We used the Gentle Leader first with Pierre (because that's what the PetSmart guy said to do), but it really injured Pierre's love of walks. He would run away if we wanted to go out! But he is an energetic puller, so I was afraid he was going to harm himself.
It just so happened that we were taking a Recall class at our local training group (not PetSmart) and the trained let us borrow the harness for the class to test it. It was amazing! Completely worth the money!
...only if Duncan hadn't chewed it up in HIS puppy stages...
Oh, you may need a Small for now and then move to a Medium. Fit is very important with the Easy Walker. (Pierre the Papillon is too small for Small and just fits into the Petite nicely...)
It just so happened that we were taking a Recall class at our local training group (not PetSmart) and the trained let us borrow the harness for the class to test it. It was amazing! Completely worth the money!
...only if Duncan hadn't chewed it up in HIS puppy stages...
Oh, you may need a Small for now and then move to a Medium. Fit is very important with the Easy Walker. (Pierre the Papillon is too small for Small and just fits into the Petite nicely...)
I can only agree heartily with that, in fact all gundogs due to using their mouths when working are terrible for chewing on people as pups! When Cadbury was at his worst turning my back and muttering under my breath as though I was really upset worked well.
I read a very interesting article (and if i could find it again I would post the link) and it said that with puppies there are two stages to mouthing. First, its important to teach them to bite gently on your hand, so only warn them for playing too rough - that sounds bizarre, but the theory is if your dog was ever injured, or in serious pain, or even very scared it might feel pushed to bite, if it has learnt to bite gently, then it will not harm you. At least that's the theory.
And then the second phase which comes very quickly is to stop mouthing altogether.
Now the herding is a new one to me, so that should be interesting when sheltie pup comes.
I can understand what you are saying.The chocolate lab we had here some time ago in foster,she had what I refer to is a soft mouth. When labs are in training say for duck,or bird hunting,they are taught to not injure or puncture the skin of the bird they are retrieving.They have a gentle mouth,and are taught to release the bird on command.
Kasey had this very type of mouth,she was very gentle with anything her mouth came in contact with.Even like if you were feeding her a treat,she would ever so gently gingerly come up to your hand,and just take enough of her mouth,to take the food from you.Her teeth never touched your hand.
We always found that quite amazing with her,to be so very gentle.It was evident to us,that she had some serious training in retrieving areas. She would also if she had say a ball in her mouth,would not release it,until you told her to.
I can see the training of having to be gentle, especaially if the dog was injured,and most probably out of fear,would bite.So it's definately something to teach any dog.
Two years ago,good friends of ours,thier pup was hit by a car,and thier son tried desperately to get Peanut out of the culvert in the roadside.
But she was so very scared,she was biting him repeatedly. Any other time,she was just the most gentle pup,but not in that situation.
So they called us over,I took a muzzle for safety,not just for my sake,but anyone else there,and for the ride to the vets office.