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What is wrong with this dog (structurally)?

Discussion in 'The Sheltie Standard' started by corbinam, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. tofu pup

    tofu pup Moderator

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    Oh! AOAC stands for Any other Allowed Color, ie. tricolor/bicolor/blue merle/bi-blue. People tend to breed AOACs to AOACs and sables to sables, so the average sable Sheltie is more closely-related to another sable sheltie than to an AOAC. Make sense? That's why the AOACs tend to have certain faults (like that heavy head) and sables tend to have others (like a snipey, Pomeranian-type head). It's not a hard-and-fast rule, but it's a definite trend.
     
  2. OntarioSheltie

    OntarioSheltie Forums Celebrity

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    That's right, I always forget what that means. I think I've asked a few times before. :eek:

    Thanks for the explanation, it all makes sense to me now. :smile2:
     
  3. Elis

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    This is very informative - especially since I've been looking for a female AOAC to do some sports with - tyvm :smile2:
     
  4. ClantyreSheltie

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    And then you have those of us with mixed breed shelties, where we mix it all up. :smile2: My blue dog is from a sable to blue breeding, so he has faults and virtues of both.

    You can use this dog for learning too:
    http://www.clantyre.net/clip/Marque.html

    I got a nice side shot of him (with his tongue sticking out of course). You can see that his front isn't awesome, but his legs are still under his body, and his ears are in front of his legs. His neck is decent, his rear is strong. He does have a short tail (thanks to his sable side). If his front were better, he would probably measure insize. :smile2:

    It's good to see both good and bad structure. Too many times, when you go to a structure seminar they don't have bad examples of structure only different levels of good, or someone is afraid the dog will be offended if they point out the bad. We keep threatening to take our straight shouldered, straight rear-ended rescue dog to a seminar. He still moves well, even at 14 years old. And if you are petting him while explaining his horrid structure, he won't care.
     
  5. corbinam

    corbinam Moderator

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    I have often felt this way (when looking at pet AOACs) but could never put my finger on it. Thank you so much for explaining it the way you did!
     
  6. Sumac3890

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    This has really been an interesting thread and most informative.
     
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    To me it looks like Smaller head With a short neck , but I think in combination with the short body length it just make him look out of wack, I think if his body was longer he would just appear a bit small. But then I am no judge Thank god.
     
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  8. corbinam

    corbinam Moderator

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    Additional picture

    I scoured my discarded pictures to see if there were any others of this particular dog. I found one!

    However, you'll see why it was discarded...it's very grainy/blurry. But, it might give more clues as to what (if anything) is going on with the dog's structure.

    Sorry for the poor edit job--I wanted to preserve the handler's anonymity.
     

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  9. Lovely

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    I haven't had much to contribute, being an owner of non-show quality dogs and fairly new to the breed, but I have really enjoyed this thread!

    Now I understand Abbie's AOAC head (though hers isn't so bad by my amateur judgement) and Duncan's short tail! Thank goodness he doesn't have the pom-looking face. I do not like that one.
     
  10. ClantyreSheltie

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    Yeah, that's pretty bad. By the time the front leg is that extended, the rear leg should be also.
     

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