You are too big to show, sugar!

This has been an interesting thread. I don't show or anything and couldn't even tell you if a puppy has agility drive (I'm too new), so reading all this....very interesting.

I will say, I was once offered a show prospect that was going to go oversize. The puppy was 8 months old. Two of the reasons I passed was 1. Dog would need to stay intact for future breedings and 2. Dog was being sold for $1,000. Ouch. I just literally wanted a pet. Not a stud dog.

Koji was a show prospect. But my breeder chose to sell him because she didn't want 2 (she has a girl that shows I believe - Koji's sister). Maybe a good thing cuz boy did he get tall 17.5" or so. Thankfully, she sold him for less since he was to be neutered. :)

So interesting to read about you show people. lol.
 
Yeah, but we all know sheltie pup will be way better than any bc:wink2:

I second that one! Good luck keeping up with a BC on an agility course. At the show we were at this weekend, they made my head spin. So fast.....and SLOPPY! Way faster than the shelties but they were knocking bars down and missing contacts all over the place. Wowzers.....
 
I second that one! Good luck keeping up with a BC on an agility course. At the show we were at this weekend, they made my head spin. So fast.....and SLOPPY! Way faster than the shelties but they were knocking bars down and missing contacts all over the place. Wowzers.....
I know, I watch the BCs at Crufts and they all seem to compromise accuracy for speed!

We have currently 3 BCs in my agility class, one of them is so fast its a case of 'blink and you miss her!'
 
I know, I watch the BCs at Crufts and they all seem to compromise accuracy for speed!

We have currently 3 BCs in my agility class, one of them is so fast its a case of 'blink and you miss her!'

I understand that! A dog on my Flyball teams runs the full 60 feet both ways with four jumps plus the box in 3.8 seconds. Ridiculous! I was joking tonight at practice and said, "I've had slower heartbeats!"
 
For us, the fairest way to handle the unknown future with a puppy is this...
sell the show prospect puppy for pet price. When (and if) they get the first major, the owner owes the breeder $500.00. (They are happy to pay it, they just got a major!) It's on track to be a Champion. When they get the second major, usually finishing the dog, the owner owes the breeder another $500.00.
Now, the owner has a finished Champion show dog and payed aprox. $2500.00
If the pup doesn't turn out,(agreed upon by both parties) they can sell the pup to a companion home for what they paid for it...a pet price. Or choose to keep it themselves. They only paid for a pet.
 
I 100% concur that people who have not shown in a venue have no business selling a "prospect" puppy into that venue. Just because it's a Sheltie doesn't mean it's a performance dog.
 
I 100% concur that people who have not shown in a venue have no business selling a "prospect" puppy into that venue. Just because it's a Sheltie doesn't mean it's a performance dog.

I'm not sure I exactly agree with that. Though I have not shown in agility, herding... I can somewhat tell if a dog could be a prospect in that particular venue. Based on energy level, confidence and the list goes on.
 
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