The Doodle craze

Jess041 said:
Then you ask them what they're looking for in a dog, and they pretty much describe a poodle. Just get a poodle for goodness sakes.
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Agree!!!! My aunt had mini poodles growing up - sure they didn't shed but they weren't very nice dogs! My SIL has 2 doodles - her fav that she thinks is a FAB dog is high strung, not very friendly, not a 'family' dog imo but maybe because we had kids my idea of a family dog is different than someone who doesn't and then gets a dog... Her 2nd has a really nice personality, but she is not such a fan of the second one. Both dogs cost thousands, about 4 times what we paid for our doxies and almost 3 times what we paid for our shelties. The 2nd had major things wrong with her female parts, required multiple surgeries, medications and has flair ups on occasion. I know things can happen with any breed, but seems to me if you want a mutt, ADOPT one! People will continue breeding and charging exorbitant amounts for mutts so long as people breed them.

Also, Deacon and I have gone through our classes with a purebred poodle - she has a lovely personality but is soooo hard to train - she's getting there though. There have been many, many doodle types in our classes - many start, then drop out, I really think the poodle personality requires a strong trainer/owner - the 'great coat' argument doesn't overcome the breeds personality. I've really seen an incredible increase in overwhelmed dog owners in these classes with him - and the classes are PACKED! You wonder what will happen to all these 'covid'-dogs if owners get frustrated with the time it takes to train, give up and end up with some crazy dog!
 
My very first dog was a mini Poodle. She was AWESOME. I was bummed because I wanted a German Shepherd (I was 12) but my mom was a neat-freak and so we had to have a non-shedding dog. Karla did tricks, rode on my bike with me, jumped over jumps, explored the trails etc. This was in the 60's so I don't know how the breed is now, temperamentally. But she was an great first dog.

Then a neighbor got a Sheltie, and I was besotted!
 
Sharon7 said:
My very first dog was a mini Poodle. She was AWESOME. I was bummed because I wanted a German Shepherd (I was 12) but my mom was a neat-freak and so we had to have a non-shedding dog. Karla did tricks, rode on my bike with me, jumped over jumps, explored the trails etc. This was in the 60's so I don't know how the breed is now, temperamentally. But she was an great first dog.

Then a neighbor got a Sheltie, and I was besotted!
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I feel like I remember reading a while ago that the standard poodles were having an issue with the gene pool being really small. Genetic bottlenecking is what it's called. Might be all poodles, might just be standard, I'm not sure. I'll have to do some research. As far as temperament... all the standard poodles I've met are great. Only one had to stop coming to the dog park because he was a bit aggressive toward other dogs. But around people and strangers, he was fine. I even know a couple standard poodle service dogs. But it seems like the smaller they get, the meaner they get. I know several mini/toy poodles that are friendly, but I also know some that are fearful and reactive toward strangers. But tbh I've met more chihuahuas that were "mean".
 
honestly I think when people get a little dog that they just don't bother to train them or teach them any kind of manners- they just pick the dog up and don't let it back down if it looks like something might happen...... and those are the owners who are paying some kind of attention to the dog..........:gaah:rolleyes2:
 
Jess041 said:
I feel like I remember reading a while ago that the standard poodles were having an issue with the gene pool being really small. Genetic bottlenecking is what it's called. Might be all poodles, might just be standard, I'm not sure. I'll have to do some research. As far as temperament... all the standard poodles I've met are great. Only one had to stop coming to the dog park because he was a bit aggressive toward other dogs. But around people and strangers, he was fine. I even know a couple standard poodle service dogs. But it seems like the smaller they get, the meaner they get. I know several mini/toy poodles that are friendly, but I also know some that are fearful and reactive toward strangers. But tbh I've met more chihuahuas that were "mean".
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by the way- nice to see you back:yes:
 
Jess041 said:
I feel like I remember reading a while ago that the standard poodles were having an issue with the gene pool being really small. Genetic bottlenecking is what it's called. Might be all poodles, might just be standard, I'm not sure. I'll have to do some research. As far as temperament... all the standard poodles I've met are great. Only one had to stop coming to the dog park because he was a bit aggressive toward other dogs. But around people and strangers, he was fine. I even know a couple standard poodle service dogs. But it seems like the smaller they get, the meaner they get. I know several mini/toy poodles that are friendly, but I also know some that are fearful and reactive toward strangers. But tbh I've met more chihuahuas that were "mean".
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Honestly though those traits could be said for any dog breed. My first sheltie was reactive and fearful towards strangers, and I didn't deal with it correctly at first. He got much better because we did at training, and he aged
 
Calliesmom said:
honestly I think when people get a little dog that they just don't bother to train them or teach them any kind of manners- they just pick the dog up and don't let it back down if it looks like something might happen...... and those are the owners who are paying some kind of attention to the dog..........:gaah:rolleyes2:
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100% agree. And not training a tiny or small dog can make them totally obnoxious to be around as well as it not being remotely fair to the little dog. So many tiny dogs are aggressive out of fear...the world around them is huge and they have been given no guidelines/boundaries as to how to respond and have no confidence that they are safe so they turn to aggression in hopes of keeping anything or anyone they don't know and feel comfortable with at bay. It doesn't matter whether a dog weights 5 pounds or 190 pounds...the basic training should be the same.
Trini
 
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